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2008 8 core Mac with Red Rocket vs 2010 12 core no Red rocket

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Which would be better in Resolve? We only grade/edit Epic footage.
 
How about when working? Final render one can do at night.... Anyone tried DaVinci or Premiere Pro in a 2008 8-core with a RR? Or a 2010 12 core no RR? (using 5K ff?)
 
Having the Rocket is going to speed up R3D decodes by quite a bit. Although, if I had to choose between the two systems, I would go with the 2010 12 core Mac Pro. It has more than double the memory bandwidth and the CPUs are 35% faster per clock. Rocket or not, the 2008 Mac Pro has to drop to 8bits per channel color depth to maintain realtime 1080p playback. The 2010 12-core is significantly better in every way. If you are looking to pick up a system and these are two options you're considering, I would go with the 2010 model and hope to pick up a Rocket at a later date.
 
Inevitably you're going to mix in other camera formats that don't benefit from redrocket. 12 core will save you then. I had a 5,1 2010 8 core and eventually swapped out for 2010 12 core. Resolve was much happier. The 3,1 Mac Pros don't do so good with resolve...
 
thanks Jeff, what do you think about dragon and a 12 core?
i am not sure, but i guess the rocket will handle 6k files, be it at 1/2 resolution.

and i thought about a new macpro too. having a 2008 for this year and getting a new one next doenst hurt
so much. the rocket can move to the new macpro too
but again, who knows if there ever will be a new mac pro :)
 
I think it's too early to speculate about Dragon. However, I'm sure the Rocket will handle it at full resolution all the time, just as it does with current R3D media. Based on the Rocket's performance with 5K EPIC files,, I seriously doubt that 6K from Dragon will decode at real-time on a single Rocket card. I'm hopeful that we'll see a new Rocket card or other solutions here in the near future. Personally, I'm really hoping for an R3D decode solution that uses Intel's MIC (Xeon Phi) accelerator card tech. It's essentially a monster GPU / compute card. It's technically available to developers now and was supposed to ship by the end of the year. However, it's been a bit slow to gain traction as the industry is so entrenched with CUDA. It's gaining ground though as people are realizing how powerful it is and that it can accelerate common x86 code as well as OpenCL.

While I understand people will always need new computers whenever they need them, it's difficult to make a recommendation right now. New Xeon CPUs, and presumably Mac Pros, are just a few months away. And yet people are uneasy because Apple skipped the last Xeon iteration which was released at the end of April / early May. There's also a lot of indicators that the tower design may go away. While I'm all for ditching the current and very dated tower, it's difficult to guess where Apple may be headed with the platform...
 
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