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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet problems,

Joel Mielle

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I have a few problems, the first one was unable to black shade, the second issue is the amount of noise in the blacks, even at 50 ISO, it's not usable and starting a film in 2 days. The third one is that the camera picture jitters when I pan and it's obvious on the monitor, but worse still it seems to record that way. I just cannot use this camera in its present condition. See pho
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You still cannot do a black calibration? If you can get it to work that should help your noise problem a lot.

What do you mean by jitter? Could you post a sample?
 
is that still in redlogfilm? if so, your always going to see a lot more noise with RLF as your gamma curve. as soon as you bring the blacks down to a normal level the noise will go away

No it was set on REDgamma3 with flut pushed high to exaggerate issue, in fact it doesn't matter which image look setting on Redcine, those vertical lines are very apparent on all dark shots. Download (still) sample here: http://www.intermediaarts.com.au/test.RMD
 
Yes twice, and factory defaults also. I have some test shots prior to update and they are perfect.

If it worked on the pre-3.0.0 then maybe you should downgrade to 2.0.5 (you can still get it from red.com)
Then you could do your shoot and RMA the camera afterwards and let Red know what the problem is
 
If it worked on the pre-3.0.0 then maybe you should downgrade to 2.0.5 (you can still get it from red.com)
Then you could do your shoot and RMA the camera afterwards and let Red know what the problem is

Problem is that it specifies that you cannot roll back. So I don't think I can do it. Waiting for RED techs to advise me. It's only software as far as I can see so I'm hoping.
 
Keep us updated on the results.

No problems with any of this on my side. I don't like having to do a black calibration, or that it takes so long... and I really dislike how clunky it is to work with audio, but in the end everything is working just as promised. I hope you get things figured out!
 
Joel,

Incase you havent already please have a log file for the camera ready to send tech support.

Problem is that it specifies that you cannot roll back. So I don't think I can do it. Waiting for RED techs to advise me. It's only software as far as I can see so I'm hoping.
 
What you are seeing here is sensor pattern noise, and it's no reason to be afraid of your Scarlet. A black shade should take care of this issue. What error are you getting on black shading?
 
Problem is that it specifies that you cannot roll back. So I don't think I can do it. Waiting for RED techs to advise me. It's only software as far as I can see so I'm hoping.

Yes you can,
form the Red download site:

"You will not be able to roll back to firmware revisions earlier than v2.0.2 after installing v3.0.0."

But the version available is 2.0.5

 
You mentioned that it still has noise even at 250 ISO. Just FYI, shooting at 250 ISO will actually introduce more noise into you image than shooting at 800 ISO. The effect can be reduced by how your setting exposure, but shooting on RED isn't like shooting on a DSLR-shooting at a lower ISO doesn't produce a cleaner image. Both the Epic and Scarlet shoot their cleanest image at 800 ISO because it's the native sensitivity of the sensor.

So, something you might want to try is changing your ISO to 800 and using ND filters to get your exposure back down to proper levels. This won't fix everything and black shading it still necessary, but it might help a little.
 
Are you using Canon ois on your lens? Panning is known to create a jittering effect if your image stabilization is on with the camera on a tripod.
 
ISO320 is the number most think the sensor is native. Some say to shoot 800 to protect hi-lights.

You mentioned that it still has noise even at 250 ISO. Just FYI, shooting at 250 ISO will actually introduce more noise into you image than shooting at 800 ISO. The effect can be reduced by how your setting exposure, but shooting on RED isn't like shooting on a DSLR-shooting at a lower ISO doesn't produce a cleaner image. Both the Epic and Scarlet shoot their cleanest image at 800 ISO because it's the native sensitivity of the sensor.

So, something you might want to try is changing your ISO to 800 and using ND filters to get your exposure back down to proper levels. This won't fix everything and black shading it still necessary, but it might help a little.
 
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