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What do you think about the supply rate ?

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Togan Gokbakar

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What do you think about the supply rate of scarlets in a month? How many can they manufacture in a month? Any ideas?
 
From what I've read, it's at a rate that will probably get me my camera at some point in late summer or early fall of 2012. I ordered on 11/10/11.
 
Togan Gokbakar said:
What do you think about the supply rate of scarlets in a month? How many can they manufacture in a month? Any ideas?
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They've been about 250 or so per month. But that was just the first month. Production tends to grow pretty substantially with all things RED over time.
 
If you check THE LIST here :
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?68059-The-List-Please-maintain&highlight=list
You can see there is a lot of Sale Orders...

There is 6000 SO between the last Scarlet received and mine ...
If I count that half of the sales are for a Scarlet : 3000 ordered before mine...
If I count only 300 per month, that means I will not get it before september 2012 !!!
I can't believe that !
If so I will cancelled my order... that's unacceptable, even from RED...

I'm in Europe so maybe it will change something... but I get RED Europe in phone fews days ago and they say they can't predict anything... Thanks guys !
We just ask for a prediction, a month or 4 month ? They can't tell ! It's quite a shame.
 
Quentin Devillers said:
If you check THE LIST here :
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?68059-The-List-Please-maintain&highlight=list
You can see there is a lot of Sale Orders...

There is 6000 SO between the last Scarlet received and mine ...
If I count that half of the sales are for a Scarlet : 3000 ordered before mine...
If I count only 300 per month, that means I will not get it before september 2012 !!!
I can't believe that !
If so I will cancelled my order... that's unacceptable, even from RED...

I'm in Europe so maybe it will change something... but I get RED Europe in phone fews days ago and they say they can't predict anything... Thanks guys !
We just ask for a prediction, a month or 4 month ? They can't tell ! It's quite a shame.
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RED are professional tools. They are not a consumer products, you can buy everywhere at any quantity. Some peeps here waited 2 years for their EVF. Be patient.
 
Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig said:
RED are professional tools. They are not a consumer products, you can buy everywhere at any quantity. Some peeps here waited 2 years for their EVF. Be patient.
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True, but they are also taking down payments for cameras. If they've taken 3000 orders for Scarlet, that's well over a $3,000,000 infusion of cold, hard, cash. That should help finance a steeper ramp up in production, to meet demand. We're practically investors at this point, as it seems the cameras are leaving their facility at a trickle, at this point.
 
Unless you are new to RED you should have known to order a Scarlet ASAP if you wanted one. Odds are if you wanted a Scarlet you would have been following RED for a while. You should have done your homework. Sorry.
 
Unless you are new to RED you should have known to order a Scarlet ASAP if you wanted one. Odds are if you wanted a Scarlet you would have been following RED for a while. You should have done your homework. Sorry.
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Thats BS, Sorry. If you want a Scarlet, you buy a Scarlet. Just because some people have more time to snoop around on these forums more than others doesn't make their money any more valuable.
 
Brad Grimm said:
Thats BS, Sorry. If you want a Scarlet, you buy a Scarlet. Just because some people have more time to snoop around on these forums more than others doesn't make their money any more valuable.
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I wouldn't say it's BS. I ultimately think Jarek nailed it on the head. You didn't just have to be on these forums, I can think of 4-5 sites alone that pretty much just re-posted the info posted here. While I'm not happy about even the shorter wait I probably have I ultimately understood I'd have to wait. Yes I've lost jobs without the camera but it will get here. If you don't want to wait that long retract your deposit, they'll gladly refund you. Then order when they're ready to ship as soon as you click order.

Or order an Epic M or buy and Old R1 off the For Sale part of this site.

I almost got a R1, but for me size was key.
 
I'm sure there will be used ones for sale soon in the store. Might be a premium price though. Never really know. I was one of the first to order, and really thought I would be under 100 Serial number, and have it delivered on Dec 1st. Boy was that wrong. Pushed back, PL mounts shipping, Canon mount not shipping until the 17th, etc.

The other factor is the Stage 3 and 4 for Epic. All those accessories, and those production lines, are going to slow down the scarlet, until they get more lines running.

Any way you look at it, you will wait, but the wait will be worth it. What I love about the RED system, is that today, I'm shooting with a 5D, and all that glass will still work on the Scarlet. It will still work on the Epic. I even have my TI Canon mount already. I ordered the Side handle the second it hit the store. It's best to get your accessories when you can, rather than wait for you camera to arrive.

With all of that in, mind though, Jarred has said they will work very hard to e out of backorder next year. That's music to everyone's ears.
 
Faster would be nicer, but slow also them to build them right the first time. Rather not have them rush thousands out the door with high failure rates due to cut corners.
 
Brad Grimm said:
Thats BS, Sorry. If you want a Scarlet, you buy a Scarlet. Just because some people have more time to snoop around on these forums more than others doesn't make their money any more valuable.
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You can think it's BS and you can dislike it, but your alternatives are either to wait for your Scarlet to arrive, or buy a different camera. Simple.

I don't happen to think it is going to take months for them to catch up, but I don't know anymore than the next guy. I'll wait and enjoy the anticipation while shooting on other cameras. :mellow:
 
Brad Grimm said:
Thats BS, Sorry. If you want a Scarlet, you buy a Scarlet. Just because some people have more time to snoop around on these forums more than others doesn't make their money any more valuable.
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RED doesn't sell consumer products. You can't just stroll into Best Buy and get one. Pretty much everything that comes out of RED is a custom order and generally already sold before it's even made.

If for example someone where to have no knowledge of a product such as Scarlet, then learn about it one day, then decide the next day they want one and expect to get it, that is what I would call BS. I don't understand how one would go about a purchase like this without doing substantial research. People waited years for the RED One, years to get an Epic, hearing about Scarlet for YEARS...and this has been common knowledge about RED camera systems. Given that Scarlet was actually shipping within two months of the "official" announcement is miracle and a blessing for many. We've all waited LONG for these cameras, most of us for years. So unless you're James Cameron, you'll have to wait your turn. Just because you're at the back of the line, doesn't give you the right to be bitter about it. I bet the guy in front of you isn't complaining and the guy behind you would be glad to take your place.
 
Jarek Zabczynski said:
RED doesn't sell consumer products. You can't just stroll into Best Buy and get one. Pretty much everything that comes out of RED is a custom order and generally already sold before it's even made.

If for example someone where to have no knowledge of a product such as Scarlet, then learn about it one day, then decide the next day they want one and expect to get it, that is what I would call BS. I don't understand how one would go about a purchase like this without doing substantial research. People waited years for the RED One, years to get an Epic, hearing about Scarlet for YEARS...and this has been common knowledge about RED camera systems. Given that Scarlet was actually shipping within two months of the "official" announcement is miracle and a blessing for many. We've all waited LONG for these cameras, most of us for years. So unless you're James Cameron, you'll have to wait your turn. Just because you're at the back of the line, doesn't give you the right to be bitter about it. I bet the guy in front of you isn't complaining and the guy behind you would be glad to take your place.
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Agreed!

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Jarek Zabczynski said:
RED doesn't sell consumer products. You can't just stroll into Best Buy and get one. Pretty much everything that comes out of RED is a custom order and generally already sold before it's even made.

If for example someone where to have no knowledge of a product such as Scarlet, then learn about it one day, then decide the next day they want one and expect to get it, that is what I would call BS. I don't understand how one would go about a purchase like this without doing substantial research. People waited years for the RED One, years to get an Epic, hearing about Scarlet for YEARS...and this has been common knowledge about RED camera systems. Given that Scarlet was actually shipping within two months of the "official" announcement is miracle and a blessing for many. We've all waited LONG for these cameras, most of us for years. So unless you're James Cameron, you'll have to wait your turn. Just because you're at the back of the line, doesn't give you the right to be bitter about it. I bet the guy in front of you isn't complaining and the guy behind you would be glad to take your place.
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Well put. That's a thread-closer right there :)
 
When the end of Feb was given as a timeframe for clearing back orders, I believe they were talking about those already in the system, ie: epics and accessories. I don't believe that remark had anything to do with Scarlet because (If I remember correctly) that was a pre- Nov. 3 remark. Someone correct me please if I am mistaken.

There is a track record to be considered here, but Scarlet comes on the heels of some hard learned lessons for the Red Team. They are wiser now, and Scarlet was always intended to ramp up more quickly. My point is that times have changed and one user's guess is as good as any.

We'll all get it when it comes.
 
You snooze you lose. This was one of the most anticipated releases from RED and you didn't have to follow these boards to know that.

I ordered the evening of Nov. 3rd and got mine Dec. 12th.
 
Scott Crawley said:
When the end of Feb was given as a timeframe for clearing back orders, I believe they were talking about those already in the system, ie: epics and accessories. I don't believe that remark had anything to do with Scarlet because (If I remember correctly) that was a pre- Nov. 3 remark. Someone correct me please if I am mistaken.

There is a track record to be considered here, but Scarlet comes on the heels of some hard learned lessons for the Red Team. They are wiser now, and Scarlet was always intended to ramp up more quickly. My point is that times have changed and one user's guess is as good
as any.
We'll all get it when it comes.
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You are mistaken. It was Dec 22
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?66412-Backorder-Update-November-8&p=903404#post903404

Jarred Land said:
I thought about making something somewhere permanent.. but we are hoping this isn't going to be a permanent situation.. just a couple more months and backorders will be the exception rather than the norm.
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