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Media Composer 6 Real time playback?

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just started using MC 6 and the AMA plugin, playback is really slow is this what you guys are finding

Also can't link to recine transcodes DNXhd in MC sny thougts?
Paul
 
What are your computer specifications?
 
MacPro 8 core 16 GIG Ram Graphics FX 4800 16 TB Raid very fast
 
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@Paul:
I get realtime playback with my 8 core in v6 if I set the Playback Quality to Draft (Yellow/Green)
Put the transcoded MXFs in a new numbered folder inside Avid MediaFiles/MXF. Let MC index the folder and then drag the .mdb to an empty bin.

@Cüneyt:
Red Rocket only accelerates transcodes in Media Composer. Not playback.
 
Thanks Jorgen will try your suggestions
I don't have a rocket and havn't used avid for about 8 years but playing with MC6 trial will be droping fcp soon
 
Yes Red AMA playback did cause me issue including some crashes but I was unaware of anyone else reporting problems. You run into stuttered PB if you have the timeline in green -should be as Jorgen says (green/yellow).

The Red Rocket does not accelerate anything within MC or Symphony6 -only transcodes- and as I've said on other threads the current best workflow is to take your footage into RCX-Pro, do your one light and use the Rocket to transcode. Put into MXF folder and you will have your media playing back without any issue.
 
In your Media Creation setting what Debayer quality do you have your RED clips set to?

Also the Rocket will most likely never support timeline acceleration or anything other than transcoding based on the AVID's internal data pipeline, kinda bums me out.

Jason
 
Jeremy Torrie said:
Yes Red AMA playback did cause me issue including some crashes but I was unaware of anyone else reporting problems. You run into stuttered PB if you have the timeline in green -should be as Jorgen says (green/yellow).

The Red Rocket does not accelerate anything within MC or Symphony6 -only transcodes- and as I've said on other threads the current best workflow is to take your footage into RCX-Pro, do your one light and use the Rocket to transcode. Put into MXF folder and you will have your media playing back without any issue.
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I have tried redlcine x transcoding to dnx 180 but transcode time is extremely slow, is this the norm with DNX transcode full debayer?
 
Yes, a full debayer transcode can be quite time consuming. A Rocket card is recommended.
 
Guys it is still easier to use a rocket and transcode to dnx mxf first. I find the whole editing process of RED, natively on MC5 or 6 unusable, especially with a client sitting beside you.

Buying a rocket card is a good investment if you primarily work with RED files. The problem with AMA is that if you are on a unity/isis network, AMA doesn't always relink properly to the native files, and you cannot edit them simultaneously on 2 or more edit suites as they shit them selves.

Much easier to use REDCINE X.
 
Thanks for the info I will try transcoding in resolve tomorrow to check render speed.
 
Why Resolve? I find Redcine to be the better choice for Red footage if a one-light is all that is required. We do Redcine > MXF > Avid 5 and 6 all the time and don't have any issues. Also, if it is just for an offline, then a half debayer is plenty. Full debayer without Rocket takes awhile.
 
MichaelP.
I hope you don't mind in helping me to figure out the problem with my new MC6 installation. I'm an Avid novice, so please keep that in mind.
I just installed Avid MC6.
I think I had a 5.5 version installed in the past, but it was removed.
So, initially, when I'm in a process of creating a new project, I can see all three windows- source, record and the timeline.
The moment I finish creating the project all three windows disappear and no matter what, I can't bring them back.
I tried selecting different working spaces, but windows appear only momentarily and then immediately disappear.
Is there something you could recommend in order to get rid of this problem?
Thanks.
 
Still can't get the batch to render from bin in RCXPro7. Forces me to select each clip into viewer, and then add to export. I can't get clips to export otherwise. But it's probably the best way to do a QC on each clip rather than simply do the handy cut and paste memory settings.

Paul -the transcodes with RR vary based on clip length obviously. I add all of my tweaked clips to the export window, then do a series of batch renders. Often it's pretty quick -sorry I know that's vague but I haven't paid really close attention. Definitely not real time but it does chug through at a reasonable clip...I'm one of these weirdos that likes to work at a higher resolution so my outputs on my feature are at DNx175 10 bit.
 
Hey Jake

You might be experiencing a known bug- are you on a Mac where the... What's it called... Menu bar (?) is on the right hand monitor? You need to move it too the left monitor. I had this problem when I added Media Composer to my resolve system- which has the 'main' monitor on the right. On a two-monitor system media composer wants to put the video screens to othe right of the monitor with the menu bar- even when there's no monitor there.

This may also NOT obey your problem...
 
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