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Very helpful Dan, thanks.
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Hi Liam - there are different philosophies on how this should be done.
Your workflow we could call the closed Loop system - you are going to be doing the color work yourself from start to finish, so you as an individual have the ability to bake the cookies how you want so to speak.
Since you are using premiere, AE and Colorista you can work natively with the raw r3ds.
Not everyone works with the native files, and in those cases where a post house is involved and they are used to a logarithmic "analog" grading technique - I'd recommend flattening the image to Redlogfilm and redcolor 2, and outputting at the highest quality they can take whether it is prores4444 or a dpx sequence.
For your closed-loop system - I would start with one clip and run some tests - first try working the clip with original metadata in PPro/AE/CTA. Maybe spend 10min on it.
Next try taking the clip into RCX, fine tuning white balance, setting middle grey, your toe (blacks) Knee (mids) and shoulder (highlight roll). Then import your clip and make sure the rmd carries over from your RedCine X session.
Finally, I'd say try the same method as step one , but instead of grading from metadata, set your Gamma to RedLogfilm, and make sure you are in redcolor 2.
By the end of this series of about 45min total in testing you should be able to tell:
Which way gives you BEST results
Which way gives you FASTEST results
The best thing is that we have choices now, and as rcxpro evolves it looks like it has the potential to be used as a full nle suite for r3ds...
Personally I use the firstlight technique a lot because I don't work with my projects at the editorial stage, and many times we don't even get a final color pass, so I just do my best to shape them up before they go anywhere.
Q. if you were doing color correction in two passes (i.e. one general on all shots full frame, then a second pass for skin/etc) ... how would you do that to stay in raw as long as possible using redcine. My expected workflow is ?? redcine/adobe premier/magic bullet. I think i understand general full frame color correction, but i get lost in how i retain raw when doing subframe coloring (i.e. skin color changes, where i have a full frame). My workflow might be totally wrong, I don't know.
While you stay RAW in the Adobe products and you can use whatever you have there (masks, tracking, the whole lot) I'd suggest DaVinci Resolve. Even for a one person shop it makes sense, and if you are able to learn the programs you mention you can learn that one too. Do your first light in RCX, move on and never look back. You need full blown secondaries for skin tones more often than not, and RCX doesn't have them. Would be a bit too much to expect from a free software, wouldn't it?
Thanks Uli, I am switching my mind ... I think you are right. So my workflow will be redcine-x -> premier/ae/blender -> DaVinciWhile you stay RAW in the Adobe products and you can use whatever you have there (masks, tracking, the whole lot) I'd suggest DaVinci Resolve. Even for a one person shop it makes sense, and if you are able to learn the programs you mention you can learn that one too. Do your first light in RCX, move on and never look back. You need full blown secondaries for skin tones more often than not, and RCX doesn't have them. Would be a bit too much to expect from a free software, wouldn't it?