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Scarlet X and your choice of Lense(s)

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So I wanted to get a thread going about what Lenses all the soon to be Scarlet X owners will use for their new power house.

I am one of those that need to add some glass to this beast of a camera and was hoping for some inspiration!
 
just get one lens, if you can't afford many, and if you wish to practice and /or work like a pro..... Red zoom 18-85mm or 17-50mm. you can go for canon lenses but in my opinion Red zoom and prime lenses will do the perfect justice to the power of this camera. however if you can't afford Red lenses than you can go for canon lenses. and one more thing, Red pl lenses are the best value for money in comparison to any other pro pl lens on planet earth. all the best
 
Great thread.

Look forward to watching it develop and contributing if I have anything worth sharing.

Best
Lliam
 
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Recommend the RED Pro 17-50mm (the 18-85mm is to heavy) and the RED Pro Prime 85mm. Thats enough for 95% of all situations.
 
Ordered the Scarlet PL (as soon as the servers stopped being wonky), and to begin I'll use the first versions of the RED 18-50 & 50-150 that I've been using on my AF100's for the last year. Those two lenses have covered about 95% of the work I've done, with the occasional rental of something wider / longer.
 
I'll be using all canon
24-105 L
24-70 L
35 1.4 L
50 1.2 L
85 1.2 L
efs 17-55
 
I have thought hard about the RED Pro 17-50mm, but I think I am going to hold off until the RED electronic lenses make an appearance.

I will be using my Nikon 24-70, Nikon 85mm 1.4G, and Tokina 11-16, when I want touch focus/rack, and weight is not an issue.

I am also assembling a Leica M set for the ultimate lightweight go anywhere kit (which I am super excited about!):
Leica 35mm f2.5 Summarit-M
Leica 50mm F2 Summicron-M
Leica 90mm f2 Summicron-M
(hoping Spacecam adds some more wide lenses to their mod list)
 
My recommendation from 3 years of Canon VDLSR use:

Tokina 11-16- The best wide angle I have for APS-C Sized sensors
Canon 24 1.4L/ The camera I use most with my FUll frame 5D. Looks also stunning on a 7D.
Canon 50 1.4- Bang for the buck. No weather sealing, terrible lens barrel. But provides very pretty pictures and nice Bokeh
Canon 80 1.2- Absolutely stunning in my 5D. In the 7D it becomes a 100 and lack of image stabilization hurts for non tripod works
Canon 135 F2L Another stunning and sharp lens from Canon. In APS-C it really requires a tripod for video. One of my favorite portrait lenses for Still photography.
Canon 24-105 IS F4- The key here is the IS. Its as close as a regular video camera lens that is bang for the buck for Canon cameras.
Canon 16-35 2.8L- Constant aperture lens that becomes a nice medium range lens in APS-C. Its a soft lens on Still mode, don't know how it will perform on the 4K Scarlet.
Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II- fantastic zoom so sharp that creates aliasing in tele in the 7D and 5D. It should be spectacular on the Scarlet. Image stabilization makes Telephoto handheld possible.
Canon Extender 1.4X and 2X III- great bang for the buck to turn your tele lenses into super telephoto lenses. i own both of these and they are excellent... for daytime shooting. They raise minimum aperture of the attached lens significantly.

Canon 14 2.8- My favorite wide angle lens for photography and 5D mark II video shooting, but is so sharp it creates too much aliasing artifacts. In the Red Scarlet, should provide very sharep images, but it would lose its main attribute, which is its ultra wide angle characteristics. The Tokina is a better buy for wide angle shots.

Canon 50 1.2L- This lens is a big improvement in still photography vs the 50 1.4, but in DSLR video its negligible. Don't know how the better optics and improved sharpness will look on the 4K Scarlet. It has better bokeh for pictures, though.

Hope this is good food for thought!
 
I'll happily use my set of zeiss ZF lenses:
25mm f2.8
50mm f1.4
85mm f1.4

by the time I pay off the scarlet, I will send them to duclos.


and less preferred, but also will use for now:
sigma 20mm f1.8
nikkor 35mm f2.8
nikkor 135mm f2.8

I am always leaning to using strictly prime lenses, feels like a much more proactive workflow for me.

Now I have to contemplate which adapter to use until RED brings out the nikon mount. Although the A-mount looks pretty darn tempting.
 
I have the Canon 17-55mm EFS 2.9 that I really like. I'm hoping that it works good covering 4K. I also have some non Ai Nikons that I will be experimenting with. I really like my Nikon 50mm 1.4. I ordered the Canon mount but I don't think I'll be buying any more lenses before I get my Scarlet. I may decide later to go with the PL mount and goes with the Red 17-55mm and the 85mm prime.
 
I'm going to use some Canon L series primes until I make my way over towards PL mount lenses but since I already have the Canon lenses I'll use those while I'm renting PL lenses and doing tests and research.
 
These lenses seem to be what I should aim for as a start...

Tokina 11-16
So many good options Canon 24-70 f2.8L seems
Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II

Cine Mod for the canons would be interesting at some point, anybody know of a company like duclos, operating in europe (uk)?
 
I'll be shooting mostly 3K and using Nikon SLR glass at first.
14-24 2.8. ED/AF
24-70 2.8 ED. Maybe a 50 and 85 for longer primes.

My guess, within the first year, SOMEONE will have a set of useable primes in 10/20/30mm for use at 2k-3k-4K on this camera.
They don't have to cover 5k. We have plenty of glass for that now. They NEED smooth stops and focus gears, basically a cinema conversion. Cannon/Nikon/PL mount options, and a reasonable price, like a set of 3 for under five grand would be a good target.
 
I live around the corner from Panavision, whatever lenses the shoot requires and the budget allows for.
 
I went for the Ti Package, although thinking about it now I'm not quite sure why. Haha. I've got 3 ZF lenses, 18, 35, and 50. I'm planning on using those on the Canon mount with my adapter for now.

I was also thinking about getting the RED 17-50mm PL lens along with the proper mount. There's also the RED 18-85 BT lens which has an awesome price.

Maybe I'll get a nice Canon zoom lens for photography as well. So many options!
 
At first I thought the crop factor wouldn't bother me too much and I'd just choose a 11mm to get an 18mm look. Somewhere around a 22mm would give me a 35mm look but really I wasn't thinking about the difference in depth of field between an 11mm and an 18mm. Sure you'll get a similar viewing window but you won't get the same shallow focus to play with when you're having to go for wider lenses to replicate the viewing window you're striving for.

I would've preferred a Scarlet shooting at 3k with no crop factor (your lenses would be what they truly are) - I don't care so much about the resolution race, I more so want to get the proper look out of the lens I have on the camera. An 18mm T1.8 is just gonna be a 28.8mm or whatever with the crop factor. I think for this reason I'm going to have to bite the bullet and grab an EPIC.

EDIT: I also think 120fps at 1k is pretty useless and kind of a joke, extreme crop factor and not even HD?
 
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