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Sound Devices PIX 240 ProRes/DNxHD Video Recorder with EPIC

I believe the PIX devices have _great_ potential for us Scarlet (soon-to-be) users, especially with the cost of RED SSD vs price-point of the Scarlet. I mean, we are in a completely different category than our $40k+ Epic bruthas where dropping $6-8k on media is not as much of an issue. Of course I would have at least ONE SSD for recording HDR or 150FPS situations (with hoped for playback into the PIX?), but day-to-day for many Scarlet users an attachable HD recorder will be a god-send... at least until Moore's Law kicks in with the SSD market...

Here is a Q for the Red Team: Scarlet is spec'd to ONLY have a HMDI-out (no SDI), making the (non-SDI) PIX 220 recorder the more practical (and $1k cheaper!) option.
The Q: will Scarlet offer HDMI-triggering for the RECORD function? Please!

And - for those who want the complete skinny on PIX, their site features the Ops Manual as a PDF. Interesting read.
Look forward to User results here!

Stu Aull
Alaska
 
Reading into this post, Looks like it will be some time before we see playback.
 
Can at least some one from Red reassure that playback is working internally ?
 
We're working on playback. It's still #1 on the priority list.
 
Deanan said:
We're working on playback. It's still #1 on the priority list.
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Nice, And is it working? or is it something that still need to be figured out?
 
could we see a video demo of the playback please?

Thank you
 
This thing also provides realtime 1080p to 720p conversion for the videotap purpose. It is the coolest.
 
it looks pretty cool... I wish they could have implemented some kind of modular form factor for the Epic so that it actually integrated better in the ergonomics of the whole camera...
 
i just finished shooting for 12 hours with the PIX240 today in AVID codec and the machine worked flawlessly. I recorded over 3 hours of vision/audio without a hitch.

Only 2 problems.

1 (WHICH IS THE BIGGEST) the files it records is .MOV and not MXF so you need to re encode the footage unless you link to it via AMA.

2nd (WHICH IS A PAIN THE THE ASS) The vision is great, but when you feed audio via analogue into the PIX240 the audio is out of sync by about 1-2 frames from the frame delay out of the SDI of the EPIC. Easy fix in post but a little painful.


Out of 10... I give this box an 8. Very reliable and stable. I will definately use it again.
 
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Why are people so excited about this thing? I thought the whole point of RED was higher resolution. And doesn't RED already create 1080p proxies as part of the recording process?

I'd think the Scarlet crowd would be better off buying $3k worth of SSDs than paying almost $3k for this!

D
 
David Dennis said:
Why are people so excited about this thing? I thought the whole point of RED was higher resolution. And doesn't RED already create 1080p proxies as part of the recording process?
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Allows you to drop timecode accurate, filename accurate, pretranscoded lightweight files into an NLE for instant editing. When you have your cut, you only need to transcode and color correct the parts of the RAW files you're actually using, instead of taking enormous amounts of time rendering entire clips.

Allows for high quality audio to be acquired on Epic, which is then pre-sunc to the offline clips saving tons of post time lining up audio clips.

Allows instant playback capability, something Epic currently does not have. And even when it does have it, this will allow you to playback a clip on the PIX's monitor instead of tying up the main system that is most likely trying to set up the next shot.

Gives you built-in timecode generation and lock that you can use to jam multiple cameras.

Gives you built-in up/down/cross conversion, extremely handy in a multitude of situations including (but not limited to) outputting a signal for steadicam equipment whose monitoring path may not be 1080p, broadcast equipment, wireless streaming equipment, etc.

There's probably more, but that's a good start.

David Dennis said:
I'd think the Scarlet crowd would be better off buying $3k worth of SSDs than paying almost $3k for this!

D
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Perhaps, but the title of this thread is PIX 240 with EPIC.

Cheers,

Häakon
 
what happens when you shoot in slowmotion?
does it know it and does/can playback the files at higher framerates like the PSU-3?
 
I've been using the aja ki pro mini, it is very limited to what type of shoots you can use it on without being able to record different frame rates, my last three jobs have all used different frame rates, all 12fps yesterday, 50fps the day before. Even if playaback is enabled on camera it is too much of a hassle playing back every slomo shot to a device just to get a prores file.
With the Epic and Red camera there is only a live output when recording so it will be near impossible to give you true slow motion files from any external device.

For drama then it works great, prores or mxf on the fly straight to edit.
 
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