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What would be the best way to do audio for music vid

To be more specific, two TRS balanced mono connectors. Yes, the jacks have three contacts, but they correspond to the three contacts on a standard XLR - NOT the contacts on a stereo jack found on consumer camcorders and DSLR's. See the appendix of the Epic manual for how it is wired. Apparently this issue is so confusing for folks, that RED has disabled phantom power so that people do not damage their mics by using the wrong type of adapter cable, and is considering making their own adapter. Anyone who cannot look at that appendix and figure out how to check (or make) an adapter cable has no business plugging anything into either of those TRS mono mic jacks! When I get my Scarlet I would really like phantom power enabled.

EDIT: I'm sure the Wooden Camera, Action Products and any other RED-specific TRS-->XLR adapters are fine. After all, it ain't rocket science!
 
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Steve Wake said:
To be more specific, two TRS balanced mono connectors. Yes, the jacks have three contacts, but they correspond to the three contacts on a standard XLR - NOT the contacts on a stereo jack found on consumer camcorders and DSLR's. See the appendix of the Epic manual for how it is wired. Apparently this issue is so confusing for folks, that RED has disabled phantom power so that people do not damage their mics by using the wrong type of adapter cable, and is considering making their own adapter. Anyone who cannot look at that appendix and figure out how to check (or make) an adapter cable has no business plugging anything into either of those TRS mono mic jacks! When I get my Scarlet I would really like phantom power enabled.
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+1!
 
Having done a few, I assume your shooting the artists miming to the track on some form of audio playback mp3 player or similar. All you want from the camera is to record a guide track only. I saw somewhere on this forum someone used ipod/iphone bud headphones (with inbuilt mic) plugged straight into an Epic & it worked fine apparently. Good cheap lateral solution for guide track audio . The use of timecode with the iphone or ipad slat app is a great way go to sync various takes if you can. Someone suggested "Plural eyes" software to sync this is one great piece of software. However I'm not sure how the software would work with multiple takes using the exact some piece of audio as I think the software matches audio wave time /shape profiles. Maybe someone can advise as I haven't yet used "Plural Eyes" in this project configuration.
 
I've made a lot of music videos and rarely recorded sound. I usually shoot all my scenes video only. Syncing up with sound is a real pain. You'll be much better off using a timecode slate, an iPhone or iPad timecode slate or even worst case scenario, make an mp4 video of the song and burn in the timecode full screen on the mp4. You can use an iPod to playback the mp4 video with timecode showing on the iPod display. When you roll camera and start playback, just make sure you give yourself enough leadtime to point the camera at the ipod and then clear frame before the song starts.

Of course you can substitute an iPod for a Droid phone, iPhone, Laptop, or whatever.

This is a LOT more reliable than recording scratch tracks and trying to use that to sync in post with. It's pretty common for the video to get separated from audio in post anyways. Having a timecode ref at the head of every clip, burned in is critical.
 
For a music vid? Just plug in a mic and shoot. The real audio track is what you mix in the studio. The mic is just so you can sync the video to the music. Play back the music track while shooting the vid and artist just lip syncs. You can use just a boom box for playback on site. No biggy.
 
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