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EPIC-M , DISNEYWORLD & FAMILY MOVIES

I just got back from Disneyland with a 7D, so, if you can make the Epic as DSLR as possible, then go with that...even put on the extra canon strap you have laying around.
 
michael zaletel said:
I am really looking forward to this vacation with my family. I know the EPIC-M wasn't made for this purpose but capturing their childhood experiences in 5K will mean the world to them 20 years from now. Thanks RED!

I'll post more soon... Let me know if anyone has any questions.
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I'm curious as to how much footage you expect to shoot, and how you intend to store it for 20 years.

I will probably be in the same boat in a few months.
 
haha... exactly!

and then you wouldn't have to worry about getting into disneyland... just walk right in with your 'camcorder' lookin stylish (and less professional). the perfect disguise all around.
 
Kenny Mosher said:
Hey Michael,
What compact strap on hood you are using. We are dying to find something for the Epic monitor. Thanks!
Kenny
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I'm using the Hoodman H-R 5.6 that I got for my Red One LCD. Fits fine. Gotta have loooong fingers to use the touch screen, though!

Mike
 
Cüneyt Kaya said:
isnt there a stylo which works with the epic. my sosage fingers make the lcd so ugly with my fingerprints all over it.
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I use a chopstick with a vienna sausage on the end... At the Red store soon.

Mike
 
Super 8mm. More pleasing to watch, easier to carry, footage will last 100 years+.
 
This is silly,
Somehow I don't think that this was the intended use for Epic.
Look -a fly on the wall- let me get my shotgun....
 
Some of the comments are pretty funny. If you really want to bring an EPIC into DisneyWorld, you may have a problem. First of all, you need to think like a security guard at the gate. Best way to configure it would probably be SLR-style with the side handle, LCD, etc.. and probably the smallest lens you have. Most security people are not camera people. They are usually taught that "professional audio / video / photo equipment" is not allowed into the park without proper permission and all that. The way most are trained to recognize "professional" camera equipment is to look at the size of the lens. Big lens = professional. They are also taught to look for equipment that is new and unusual (RED). If they don't see just another Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc.. DSLR, they may not want to let it in. A lot of it is a judgement call and one person checking bags at the gate may let it through, another may not... When passing through the gates at Disney or the TSA fun-ride at the airport, security people are just as interested in your demeanor and response as they are in your belongings. Often more so in how you respond to their actions. If you walk up to the gate at Disney with a camera in a Pelican case and look like you might know what you're doing as a photographer or you get a bit nervous when they look at the camera, or act as if you hope they will let you pass through with it... They will probably deny you. If it's kitted out minimally and not much larger than a SLR, where it could pass for a medium format still camera, you don't have extra support gear, it's in the bag with your rain jacket and some snacks and a bottle of water, you'll have a better chance. Especially if you don't react when they pull it out of your bag or question you about it.

VHS camera disguise? hehehe... I think that would draw a lot more attention. These days, that would stand out as "professional" too. It may look like it's old and from 1982, but it's so big and impressive! Worst idea ever. hehe.

Neck strap? Really?

DON'T STICK IT IN THE KIDS' BACKPACK. Childrens' bags are typically scrutinized as much as an adult's, often more. Think of it in terms of TSA checking airline passengers... Yes, people get upset when they go overboard searching strollers and diaper bags, kids' backpacks and that sort of thing. You know what? Two big reasons for that. 1> A very high percentage of confiscated items that are intentionally hidden by travelers are placed in these locations. Obviously because people think they won't check there! 2> Reaction and reading people. People tend to get nervous when you're looking through their kids' stuff. Doubly so if there's something hiding in there.

Last time I went into the Magic Kingdom, the guy only barely glanced in my bag, I had the 7D around my neck. I could've had grenades in my backpack and he would've never known... But I did get stopped, I accidently had my small pocket knife with me and it was clipped inside my picket, metal clip on the outside. He pointed at it and said "what's that?". I looked down and realized what I had done. They just had me put it in a small locker at the guards' station outside the front gate. I could pick it up when I leave the park... Used to be able to go everywhere with things like that, but not since 9/11... Meh.

My brother had trouble getting into SeaWorld a while back with a D90 and two zooms. He let the wife and kids through and told the gate person he was going to drop off the camera at the hotel since he didn't want to put it an a locker. He went to a different gate and a different person let him through.

Anyway, with all the rides and various things to do within Disney's domain, I'm not sure if I would want to wrestle an EPIC. Yeah, it makes pretty pictures, but there were plenty of times when I felt the 7D was in the way. Sometimes it's best to just take a good point and shoot and go have some fun. You're not going to want to be holding that EPIC on impact at Splash Mountain... Just sayin'
 
I love filming my family on RED, only trouble I see with this scenario is that you now have a very expensive camera you are toting around with you at all times, because I assume you won't want to leave it anywhere for security purposes. It may become a burden. There will be some great footage, no doubt, but why burden yourself with the worry, and perhaps lessening the experience with the kids. I'm just speaking about me, and how I would be in that situation. I wouldn't want to leave camera at hotel if we were going out to dinner, or some other place where cameras would not be ideal.

Personally, I'm starting to become a big fan of the smaller form factor cameras like the GH2. Pixel for pixel, obviously there's a world apart between that and an Epic, however you'll have more freedom to use it, and you can feel okay leaving at the hotel because to be honest to replace it won't cost much if the worse case scenario happened. A fixed lens Scarlet will be amazing for this kind of thing.

Not trying to be a downer, but those are the things I'd be thinking about if it were me in that situation. Now, this is coming from someone who had 3 lights setup at Christmas and the Red filming my daughter opening gifts. So, I can certainly relate to what you're attempting to do. :-)
 
Universal Studios Florida

Universal Studios Florida

Just a quick update. Our first day was at Universal Studios Florida. They didn't even check my bag at all. Perhaps it had something to do with the inconspicuous appearance of the camera bag (and maybe the 3-year-old pulling it). :)

Captured some GREAT footage at the water recreation area inside the park. Priceless moments captured in 5K.

I tried several configurations but I think my go-to config for this type of shooting will be the Duclos 11-16, the LCD Touchscreen on top and the H4N screwed in upside down to the bottom of the EPIC. That gives me the lightest possible weight, smallest possible configuration with monitoring and stereo sound. That LCD is brighter than I thought.

-michael zaletel
 

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Interesting idea to put the H4N on the bottom... But how likely are you to brush or bump it there while recording? Seems like the 17-50 would be the best go-to lens here. The Duclos 11-16 resides on my EPIC a lot. I like shooting wide angle lenses to begin with and it's a really nice size.

The Disney parks are a lot more serious about checking bags and people. It's a bit ridiculous, IMO. Or at least it was last time I was there.
 
I was worried about carrying my d7000 around when I went down in April. I cant imagine the stress of having such an expensive camera at that park all day. I was concerned about someone stealing my bag, losing it on a ride, or getting a splash on it from a water ride. You have balls, my friend. I'm sure the footage will rock, though. I ended up carrying a canon hv30 with a wide angle and just threw it in my girlfriend's backpack. Since it's a consumer cam they didn't question at all.

Also, I thought the d7000 would get annoying around my neck all day or carrying a big bag but I could not believe the amount of people who had dslrs. They were everywhere. Some even had really nice speedlights on top. I knew my girlfriend (turned fiance during the trip) wouldn't like it too much if I fooled with the camera most of the time.
 
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Michael,

Very cool. It's great to see that the original viewfinder is working with your Epic. I've been reading about mixed results in certain posts. How do you like working with the camera and the original EVF?

-Dave Dessel
 
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