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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci Resolve 8.0 details

Exactly what I want to hear ;)

Though the Resolve panel still kicks its ass.

That's the only caveat - this isn't a "mini Resolve panel". Maybe I was getting my hopes up a little too much.

So if you're budgeting for a MC Color vs the full Resolve panel, I say you definitely want to give the full Resolve panel a look because it is more streamlined.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Though the Resolve panel still kicks its ass.

That's the only caveat - this isn't a "mini Resolve panel". Maybe I was getting my hopes up a little too much.

So if you're budgeting for a MC Color vs the full Resolve panel, I say you definitely want to give the full Resolve panel a look because it is more streamlined.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
For what we need it for the MC Color is perfect. Im already using it with REDCineX :) Some quirks here and there but it works.
 
Has any one tried using Resolve with FCP X? If so what is your current work around to get around FCP X's lack of XML? Thanks!

I am currently trying this out.

AFAIK there is no workaround at the moment - BUT Resolve has excellent edit detection if you just feed it a ProRes file.

If you avoid projects with dissolves on every edit you're OK :P

You can animate your grades in Resolve to match dissolves if you have to.

I'm sure the moment that Apple lets in 3rd parties, folks will figure out something more robust.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I'm a little leery of spending $495 for an add-on to a $299 program I'm thinking of getting a refund on.

They advertise it only for audio...

EDIT: ah - it seems to have an option to "reference video files" ?
http://www.automaticduck.com/user_guides/PEFCP5UserGuide/SettingsX.html

Dont get too excited. Its still AAF and/or OMF. Which are audio centric interchange formats. Any associated video is not relevent from anthing other than being used as a visual reference in Protools/etc.
 
Dont get too excited. Its still AAF and/or OMF. Which are audio centric interchange formats. Any associated video is not relevent from anthing other than being used as a visual reference in Protools/etc.

Your, shall we say, uninformed statement on AAF would come as a great surprise to all Avid users. Please do your research before posting...
 
Right you are. I stand corrected on AAF. Not on OMF

Actually you're wrong again:-)
From Automatic Duck page:
The OMF (Open Media Framework) file format was once promoted by Avid as a format to replace EDLs as a way to interchange media and edit information between digital video and audio editing systems. OMF gained acceptance amond Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) manufacturers like DigiDesign, Fairlight, MOTU and Steinberg but somehow didn't see the same level of adoption between video editor developers. Probably because of this history many editors equate OMF with audio, but the OMF file format was also capable of transerring picture edit information as well.
 
Actually you're wrong again:-)
Jake Ive been meaning to ask you, have you ever worked with a Flanders? Im sure your used higher end (and cost) ones but I had to ask. Sorry for the off-topic.
To stay on topic, when is version 8 coming out? I have an MC Color feeling lonely here :) Its okay since RCX seems to get some time in ;)
 
Thanks guys! Good to know about Resolve's edit detection. Thanks Bruce!

So there are ways of using FCP X with resolve, even if they are not ideal. Hopefully third party applications will soon be working with apple to develop XML equivalents. If not then I can jump ship to a better editing application.
 
Actually you're wrong again:-)
From Automatic Duck page:
The OMF (Open Media Framework) file format was once promoted by Avid as a format to replace EDLs as a way to interchange media and edit information between digital video and audio editing systems. OMF gained acceptance amond Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) manufacturers like DigiDesign, Fairlight, MOTU and Steinberg but somehow didn't see the same level of adoption between video editor developers. Probably because of this history many editors equate OMF with audio, but the OMF file format was also capable of transerring picture edit information as well.

Having fun Jake? :smile5: That may be so, but in practice, not theory, OMFs are not generally used to move picture edit info between apps (say FCP and DaVinci Resolve for example). There are many reasons for this. And the use of OMFs are almost exclusively used today to move audio from NLEs to ProTools (or other DAWs) in 2gb chunks. This includes Automatic Duck.
 
Having fun Jake? :smile5: That may be so, but in practice, not theory, OMFs are not generally used to move picture edit info between apps (say FCP and DaVinci Resolve for example). There are many reasons for this. And the use of OMFs are almost exclusively used today to move audio from NLEs to ProTools (or other DAWs) in 2gb chunks. This includes Automatic Duck.

I am:smile5:
 
Jake Ive been meaning to ask you, have you ever worked with a Flanders? Im sure your used higher end (and cost) ones but I had to ask. Sorry for the off-topic.
To stay on topic, when is version 8 coming out? I have an MC Color feeling lonely here :) Its okay since RCX seems to get some time in ;)

No, sorry, I haven't.
 
Jake Ive been meaning to ask you, have you ever worked with a Flanders? Im sure your used higher end (and cost) ones but I had to ask. Sorry for the off-topic.
To stay on topic, when is version 8 coming out? I have an MC Color feeling lonely here :) Its okay since RCX seems to get some time in ;)

We have a Flanders 2461W at work hooked up to Resolve. I have a Dreamcolor at home (calibrated).

Flanders has some really nice features - for example it shows interlacing properly. Handy that. Also scopes etc.

That said, it's not so mind-numbingly much better than my Dreamcolor + HDLink that I feel the urge to spend the cash upgrade my home system. Black levels are still in the LCD range, for example.

I should probably bring in my Dreamcolor and put it next to the Flanders - but I just hit 239 hours of overtime for the year so am more interested in getting sleep and cleaning my apartment at the moment to be quite honest :)

Apologies for the OT. Anyway, the Flanders monitors plus Resolve 8 makes a lovely combination.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Should be getting close guys. Us beta testers got the first release candidate today (hope I don't get in trouble for saying that). I plan to push a bunch of EPIC footage I've been shooting through it this weekend! I haven't worked with the betas as much as I would've liked, just bad timing for me. Been doing a lot more shooting and other tasks besides editing and color work. Anyway, 8.0 is looking great.
 
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