Wave or Euphonix?

[Eric Santiago]

Well basically Wave Tangent vs Avid MC Color (Euphonix) for Davinci use and REDCineX.
Ive Googled and found a few opinions worthy but couldnt find any from REDUSER.
Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

 

[M Most]

Resolve 7.1 - the current version- does not supprt MC Color, although the forthcoming version 8 will. Redcine X works with MC Color, but the control scaling is very extreme and not very usable. That has been noted here several times and my guess it that it will eventually be addressed. Now, having said those two things, I personally prefer MC Color for a number of reasons. It is much more compact than the Wave and matches up well with a keyboard placed in front of it, the rings and trackballs have, for me, a much better feel than the Wave's separate controls, it is widely supported, has a nice, simple customization application, and it connects via Ethernet, which allows it to be shared among multiple systems without having to re-cable. The feel of the controls is quite nice on an application that supports it (I've been using it with Assimilate Scratch), and I expect that will be the same with Resolve 8.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

The Wave works well and is relatively low-cost, it's rather popular around here. Personally, I found the ergonomics of the Wave to be strange and just did not like it. I recommend you try before you buy if you can.

 

[Eric Santiago]

Thanks folks for the help. M Most, Ill be buying version 8 and hopefully by then updates will be made to your findings.
Jeff I had the pleasure to test both at NAB this year but only briefly. Seems to me everyone was trying to get their hands on them at the BlackMagic booth
Im hoping more will chime in on this topic.
They are both priced the same so thats moot.

 

[Frank Weeks]

I like the Wave with Davinci but in all fairness I have not used the others. As Jeff points out the Wave is reasonably priced and has become quite comfortable and intuitive to me. Both will be available for DaVinci very soon. Both will make your grading easier.

 

[Tim Sutherland]

I just ordered the Euphonix, was waiting and hoping it would work with Resolve, and now that it soon will, plus storm and redcine x, we just need to get the rcx sensitivity adjusted, and i will be in business.

Didn't want to go with the wave since i like having the rotary wheel placed around the trackballs.

Tim

 

[jimhare]

Eric, another factor is how much you will be on it. If it's just for short periods once in a while, you may want the Wave so you can put funds elsewhere. But if it's heavy duty use, go Euphonix.

I have the Wave and love it! But I only need it once in a while. For me it was the right tool for the job.

 

[Joseph Hutson]

The Wave is what Michael Cioni suggested at REDucation...

 

[Tim Sutherland]

The Euphonix panel is actually cheaper than the Wave, at B&H at least, although you don't have a jog/shuttle wheel, there are button transport controls. With the MC Transport jog shuttle, it's move expensive, but the feel of the Euphonix makes it easily worth it for me.

I would guess Michael Cioni suggested the wave due to the RCX sensitivity issue with the Euphonix, that and possibly the easy bus powered usb connector on the wave as opposed to the ethernet connection and separate power of the MC Color.

I chose Euphonix due to the feel and support across applications that is finally good enough to warrant a purchase for me.

Tim

 

[Eric Santiago]

The Wave is what Michael Cioni suggested at REDucation...

I met Michael at the LivePlay booth at Supermeet. Great guy very helpful
Now as far as price both units are the same according to Google.
So far pricing hasn't been the factor its the size and where I can put this unit.
Desk space is a min where Im thinking

Thanks everyone for their recommendations.
Every here at REDUSER is so helpful

 

[Rob Gardner]

We bought the Euphonix after a lot of research because it just had more positive feedback than the Wave. We have been very happy with it.

 

[M Most]

The Wave is what Michael Cioni suggested at REDucation...

That's probably because that's what he's used for a while with Redcine X. It doesn't mean it's also the best choice for other applications. Ergonomics, feel, the flexibility of Ethernet connectivity, and size all play a part in a personal choice. If you're only going to use Redcine X, he's probably right. If you're going to use, well, just about anything else, you might want to try other devices.

 

[jake blackstone]

Euphonics works with Smoke, which for me is a deal breaker. So is the new Fuse from Nucoda. Also, an upcoming Baselight plugin too was demonstrated with Euphonics. Thus, I would take FilmLight's and Digital Vision's implied suggestion over anyone else's...
Anyone, who grades for an extensive period of time wouldn't choose a split trackballs configuration, as on the Wave. I originally had purchased the Wave for the beta testing of Resolve and within days it was sent back to B&H. It's just no contest in my book.

 

[M Most]

Anyone, who grades for an extensive period of time wouldn't choose a split trackballs configuration, as on the Wave. I originally had purchased the Wave for the beta testing of Resolve and within days it was sent back to B&H. It's just no contest in my book.

Interesting you would say that, seeing as how that's exactly the way DaVinci panels were for years, right up through the 2K in fact. It's only the new Resolve "Impresario" panels that went to a ring design. And I know a lot of colorists who prefer the 2K panels....

 

[jake blackstone]

Interesting you would say that, seeing as how that's exactly the way DaVinci panels were for years, right up through the 2K in fact. It's only the new Resolve "Impresario" panels that went to a ring design. And I know a lot of colorists who prefer the 2K panels....

Prefer? It may be too strong of a statement. Used to, more like it.
Having used DaVinci panels for years in the past, as well as CP-100 more recently with Lustre, I can't imagine ever going back. And, yes, my good friend and top feature colorist prefers CP-100 over a standard Lustre panel. There is a reason why pretty much everyone, including even DaVinci chose the ring design.

 

[Zach Gray]

Had a wave since before it was supported in color. Don't use it that much because the feel of the physical controls is strange. It works fine, but to me, doesn't feel right. I'll echo what Jeff says, try one first.

 

[OlaHaldor]

I was lucky to get my hands on the MC Color a few days in March last year. With experience only with MC Color and not with the Wave, I'm biased. But I'd take the MC Color any day over the Wave because of it's ergonomics.

It's supported in Resolve which will be released in June. No mention about when, but it'll be worth the wait. Trust me.

 

[Eric Santiago]

Thanks again everyone for your input.
We decided with the MC Color due to form factor alone.
Since I have no major experience with the Wave, Itll all be new to us

 

[Alexander Ibrahim]

Thanks again everyone for your input.
We decided with the MC Color due to form factor alone.
Since I have no major experience with the Wave, Itll all be new to us

I was going to chime in supporting the MC Color on form factor and feel.

I also like the whole Euphonix Artist Series controller set. MC transport and MC color are built very well, the other panels aren't as well built IMO, but they are really good.

As a guy who needs a "do everything" box, the Euphonix panels suite me well. As someone who may need to break tasks up with limited resources, the Euphonix panels suit me very well, as I can then set an audio workstation up at my laptop and run video on my desktop just by separating the panels.

 

[brandon thomas]

I own both panels. Had the MC Color and then bought the Wave when i switched to Resolve. I'm excited for MC Color support with Resolve 8.

The Wave feels cheap, and i prefer the trackwheels around the trackballs. That being said, i've become very comfortable with the Wave and accustomed to the arrangement. It takes over my desk though, i want to cut off the bottom 4 inches of plastic so i can fit my keyboard where i'd like it.