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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

An Examination of Cooke iPanchros. a Review.

:) you tell me.....


hah, in reality the Cookes are far sharper. The Duclos is cooler and a tad soft wide open.
 
This is really nice Timur. Really helpful reviews. Can't wait for the next iteration.

Cheers!
 
Evin Grant said:
Have you had a chance to try them with the Optimo DPs (Rouges) I'm curious how they compare since they are both primary candidates for 3D work.
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I actually jsut had a chance to intercut the two.

I think the Angenieux's cut with cooke, better than the Cookes cut with Zeiss.

The angenieux's flare more, but the color and "feel" is closer.
 
Nice review man. I had kind of given up on these based on Mark's comments about them being a bit too soft (in his opinion) for the Epic, but
you're making me reconsider.

Anthony
 
Cookes too soft? interesting opinion, but i disagree. They resolve way more information than you need for the big screen. Then again, some people prefer the sterile perfection of Master Primes. I just worked MP's and they left me flat. Personal taste.
 
Yes, but to qualify he was talking about the S4's and them perhaps not being the ideal pairing for the Epic. However, in that same thread Mark also said they did a feature on the Panchros and had nothing but great things to say about them. He's not anti-Cooke, and as you know, lenses are often largely an issue of preference.

Anthony
 
AnthonyFlores said:
Yes, but to qualify he was talking about the S4's and them perhaps not being the ideal pairing for the Epic. However, in that same thread Mark also said they did a feature on the Panchros and had nothing but great things to say about them. He's not anti-Cooke, and as you know, lenses are often largely an issue of preference.

Anthony
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A huge no of high budget Hollywood movies have been shot using S4's, seems like an odd thing to say.
 
Stephen Williams said:
A huge no of high budget Hollywood movies have been shot using S4's, seems like an odd thing to say.
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Well, again he acknowledged it was a matter of preference ... but not sure if samples of S4 + Epic ever got posted. Here's one post with comments:

Mark L. Pederson said:
We are just wrapping a feature on MX with the Panchros - and I have to say - I REALLY like them - they are like "baby S4s" - and on a lens projector - they are VERY similar to the S4s but much smaller and lighter - but honestly, I like sharper glass for EPIC. I would buy the 2-lens set of Rouges over 6 Cookes for EPIC - but that's just me.

I have Cookes S4s are coming back from a job in a week or so - I'll post examples of the sharpness/falloff and you can judge for yourself.
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Anyway, at the end of the day -- doesn't really matter. It's splitting hairs and only people like us can really tell the difference at this level, typically not the audience.

I think many filmmakers would be pretty happy with the Epic + Cooke combination, and I'm sure OffHollywood will rent them to any DP who wants to use them together :)

Anthony
 
Naturally its preference. I honestly like a softer more organic image. The hyper surreal sharpness of the MX sensor without diffusion infront of the lens is far too much information for me. I always use, as we say in NYC, "Schmutz" in front of the lens. Aka a diffusion filter.

I mean, pores look bad in 1080p.... they are terrifying in 5k.
 
TOO SOFT??....NOOOOOOO.....the Panchros look amazing on the MX sensor. Do not stop thinking about buying a set of these lenses based on a comment. Test them yourself, i can guarantee you will be very happy. They are pin sharp, soft is not the right word for the FEELING/ EMOTION that the panchros have, and as well all know it is largely to do with the lovely gentle fall off, and the quality and color of the optics. Cookes are not soft lenses. Let me say it again NOT SOFT. Aesthetics, semantics.......
 
I agree,

from what i've seen so far...

SMOOTH AND RICH, BUT NOT SOFT.

Antoine
 
I also own the new Panchro and they are not soft. Smooth, creamy, rich, expensive looking images? Oh yeah. These are "mini S4s" and should have been named that to begin with. Well worth the money, and unlike a digital camera, glass is effectively good "forever".
 
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