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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Big NAB rumor "Scratch coming to MAC"

Not to derail the thread I started, But Iridas will be officially showing a brand new DI system called "Lumetri", apparently very different from their Speedgrade DI line. I have zero details beyond that.
 
Considering that my post pipeline is essentially: Adobe Media Encoder and REDCINE-X, FCP, REDCINE-X, TP2, Color, After Effects, and FCP again, I'd be very interested in seeing how Scratch could work for conform and finishing tasks to replace several of those steps in one fell swoop.
 
jake blackstone said:
What full finishing are you speaking of? But on the conform point I have to agree.
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You can make basic compositions, add graphics and basically fully finnish your project for final render/playout in Scratch.
There's no way to do that (simply) in resolves. I am aware that you can import mattes and make simple composites, but that is not the kind of functionality I was thinking about.

If Scratch was becoming the "Color" of the Adobe suite (which I have thought it eventually would since 2008), that would change the perspective a bit...
 
Gunleik Groven said:
You can make basic compositions, add graphics and basically fully finnish your project for final render/playout in Scratch.
There's no way to do that (simply) in resolves. I am aware that you can import mattes and make simple composites, but that is not the kind of functionality I was thinking about.

If Scratch was becoming the "Color" of the Adobe suite (which I have thought it eventually would since 2008), that would change the perspective a bit...
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An ability to add a graphic doesn't make a finishing system. Smoke is a finishing system and so is Avid DS. Scratch is not by any stretch of imagination and so is Resolve. By that token not even cream of the crop of grading systems, like Baselight, Lustre or FilmMaster are not finishing systems. That is not what they designed for. There are appropriate finishing tools and Scratch is not one of them.
 
shashbugu said:
Not to derail the thread I started, But Iridas will be officially showing a brand new DI system called "Lumetri", apparently very different from their Speedgrade DI line. I have zero details beyond that.
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I can't help myself but think that everyone of your posts is not true.
Since april 2nd.
 
i am not sure, but why should i buy scratch for that price when i can get smoke plus resolve for that?
is there something i miss?
 
Cüneyt Kaya said:
i am not sure, but why should i buy scratch for that price when i can get smoke plus resolve for that?
is there something i miss?
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you are not missing anything really, just a more focused tool with the sexiest interface in the industry.
 
Cüneyt Kaya said:
wonder what the price will be.
right now there is resolve for 1000 and speedgrade for 15k or so.
i have to admit that i like the UI of scratch.

for 1000 i would buy it in a heartbeat hehe
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$17.995 USD for full Scratch, Scratch Lab for $4.995 USD. Both Win and Mac.
http://www.assimilateinc.com/media/news-press/assimilate-annonces-scratch-product-family-mac-os-x

Great move by Assimilate IMHO. Scratch Lab will definitely be a serious contender to Storm in film markets.
 
is there a breakdown of features btewen scratch and scratch lab? couldnt find it.

conforming abilities of scratch are top notch...
 
jake blackstone said:
An ability to add a graphic doesn't make a finishing system. Smoke is a finishing system and so is Avid DS. Scratch is not by any stretch of imagination and so is Resolve. By that token not even cream of the crop of grading systems, like Baselight, Lustre or FilmMaster are not finishing systems. That is not what they designed for. There are appropriate finishing tools and Scratch is not one of them.
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Ok... I'll bite. I (obviously) don't work for ASSIMILATE any more, but I gotta ask...

In your opinion, what defines a "finishing system?"

Lucas
 
Lucas Wilson said:
...In your opinion, what defines a "finishing system?"

Lucas
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I'm not Jake. But for my needs a finishing system has NLE-like editorial capabilities including sound, additional to colour timing etc...
Besides VFX I find versioning and archiving a vital aspect.

I said for my needs. For other needs Scratch, SpeedGrade and the the big irons in the grading world do the trick.

Because finishing with my grading system was less then ideal I purchased Smoke. Now I use my grading system as a digital telecine for rushes because it's particular good at colours, not so much at editorial changes AFTER approval by the clients.

Others are happy with FCP and call that a finishing system.

In the TVC world Flame is a finishing system, not so much in the TV-show world. So obviously there are many different "finishing" systems
for different markets. That shows that the term "finishing system" is pretty subjective on the contrary to "NLE", for instance.

But obviously Smoke is more a "finishing" system than Scratch, which does not not make Scratch less attractive.

Hans
 
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