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Flip a Coin - windsurf and ski movie

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Henk van den Doel

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Edit: please check the trailer here: http://www.vimeo.com/16429254



Where else would we make a first official announcement about our first film, shot on RED!

Here are some first frames. It will not be another action video. It will not be a documentary. That's all we can say for now. More soon..
 

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Except three shots, everything was shot on Red. The artwork was all made from shots in the movie. Footage can be seen soon in the trailer. We'll post it here first.
 
Looks good, Henk. :-)
 
Thanks Siddhartha. We never really made a film before and I must say it's pretty exciting to get those first things out in the open world now :)
 
Yeah, I can imagine! :-) Good luck with it. Succes! ;-)
 
Super nice Henk! Het ziet er echt heel erg mooi uit. Eerst twijfelde ik zelfs of het wel een Nederlandse productie was (<complimenten!!). I really like the concept. Me myself I like to surf and snowboard so I can really feel the need for a film like this.

I see you're based in Middelburg, pretty close to where I live, Dordrecht. My college for cinemathography is even closer...Bergen op Zoom! Makes me really stoked to see this.

By the way, you made me wanna go to the snow really bad...so I'm lucky I'm going next week to the Alpes to film stockfootage. But you must be even more stoked to have this opportunity. I don't know how you mannage to do that but definatly thumbs up. I think the snow images look really natural, and the tropical images are super super poppy, great job...veel succes gewenst, groeten Jan Kees.
 
Thanks! Nice to hear you like it. It's the concept we think that should set it apart, but it's hard to explain that in the trailer (without giving away too much). We hope to surprise the viewer.

Seems like you guys are in a bit of the same kind of business as we are, cool. Stop by our office someday if you like. Just give us a call to check if we're there then!
 
Bumping up this topic because: Yesterday was the premiere. Sony 4K projector (with a 2K master right Henk?) in a full theatre of people that couldn't wait to watch it.

I guess there is no better place to respond then here where I saw the first sign of this film. First of all...everybody who has filmmaking and extreme sports high in their list just needs to see this. Just because it is something that has never been done before, at least not that I know of.

It was a unique inspiring narritive filmconcept with stunning imaging. An organic flow between the lives of the characters. Maybe some people know the feeling when it is almost time for the next season for your sport and you just wanna be out there. Well that is what I felt multiple times. And when you are in that season you just don't wanna get out and then the cycle starts over again.

I still remember the quote after a part of skiing which said 'it's the mother of all sports'. After that a beautifull surf scene blasted across the huge screen with a song that reminds me of Norway. Wanna hear that song again!! Couldn't ask for better combinations Henk. It is a good thing I almost couldn't get true the masses of people that wanted to say something to you. Great to meet Maarten also, you guys can be proud. Thanks for the invitation and I have a feeling I will meet you soon.
 
Thanks for the kind words JK. Nice to meet you there. It is good to hear some responses, as we had not shown it to anyone yet. We skipped a test with feedback as we thought it might take the edges of a few choices we made. So we really had no clue whether what we had in mind would 'work' and if viewers accept that. That in itself was quite exciting.

Yes, it was a 2K master. Mostly because we shot quite a bit in 2K and 3K. I was quite amazed what it looked like on the big screen with the 4K projector, it looked less digital than I had expected. Very nice actually. Also in the way it moved.

And that makes it time to thank the people at RED should someone there read this. Thanks for making a tool that helped us in creating this movie. We come from a DVX background and just when we were browsing for the next step up in cameraland, we saw announcements about RED. We waited. And got ourselves one. The characteristics, raw color and the possibilities to record high quality slow-motion have given us creative possibilities that otherwise would have been simply out of our league.*Redcine-X is the icing on the cake in this respect which has grown to a great application that works. For free. Very nice.

Also we would like to thank fellow redusers for sharing their knowledge. It's amazing how much one can learn by visiting this place on a regular basis.
 
I believe they where on a birger mount too? I'm not sure but I'm also interested in this Ryan. Henk I can't believe we didn't have a geekie/techchat yet...but maybe that's because the story was up front for a change ;) When things get less busy for you I would love to have that chat some day.

Dvd and blue-ray are in skedule for april...still recommend that if anyone is interested in extreme sports + life storytelling.
 
We used our own collection of Nikon and Sigma lenses for this. No Birger mount, simply the Nikon adapter made by RED. It took us almost 3 years to shoot this movie and we paid for the whole thing ourselves without any funds. So we worked with whatever we could get our hands on. And within those three years our collection of lenses expanded a bit and we've learned a lot about all of those lenses. In the end, one lens we stopped using. But there are two favorites that stand out, and which also make a nice pair. First there is the Nikon 50mm 1.8, which came in handy in so many occassions. Sharp, yet still has a sense of character. Perfect for interior shots, slowmotion and talents, but we also used it for landscape shots. It is a 100 dollar lens and offers insane value for money.

For filming the action we used two zoom lenses by Sigma. Both 100-300mm range. There are two kinds, one of them is only 100 dollars new. You can't go wrong with this thing for the money. It delivers ok images as long as the sun shines. It feels really flakey and cheap, but is very light one the other hand. It is definitely not as refined as it's bigger 100-300mm brother though. This one we got after the cheap one broke. The bigger brother is a lot heavier and needs a rest on the rods with a metal bridge which we had custom made. So it takes more time and effort to swop this lens. But the images it makes are really nice and stand out from its smaller brother. It's sharp all over the range (even wide open), has beautiful bokeh and makes for a nice 'outside' partner to the 50mm. The way it handles color and light are really nice. The built quality of this 100-300 lens is good as well. I think this one is about 1200 dollars new. Anyone who has doubts about Sigma, try this lens.

Check this link for a shot with the 'big' 100-300 lens. This was shot at 300mm, with the iris opened up to 5.6:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?i...157982254250913.29200.133916643324141&theater

This shot was taken with the 50mm, polariser on it to cut some light so we could open up the iris just a bit more and seperate the talents from the background:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?a...133918989990573.20526.133916643324141&theater

JK, give us a ring in April when you see a chance to drop by our office.
 
Hey this is very exciting! And that from fellow Dutchmen! The footage looks really good, but what I was really fascinated by is how the filming process went. I had planned to go exactly the same way; coming from an art background and not the world of movies I had planned not do it by the normal procedures but let the whole thing grow organically; I was stopped by some conversations with Susan Engels (de ziel van witgoed), and now that I have stopped filming and started finishing the script I am very happy with her advice; but I'm very eager to see how you pulled it off. And if you want to get technical: are you guys going for epic as well?
 
Hi Hans, thanks. We've always had a bit of trouble with following 'the rules of filmmaking' and the rules for getting funds. We couldn't see ourselves actually getting a fund for the following description: "Dear sir/madam, we have never made a movie before, but we think we have a really good idea. We don't have a script, only an outline, but we are confident it will work out. Somehow. We would appreciate it if we don't have to take any advice from your organization and can stick to our own ideas if we want. We only need your money. If that works out for you too, that would be great. Oh yes, please know that we will spend the money wisely on trips to beautiful locations around the world and to rent a helicopter. We would appreciate if you could let us know this week what amount you can spare, so we can quickly get started and rush into this. Thank you in advance for taking this in consideration."

So as soon as we let go of that fund-illusion, the only thing we knew is that we were going to do it and finish it. Just not sure how and when. So we just started shooting in between commercial jobs, and put the profit we made from that directly into the movie. We have a plan with the movie and there are many roads to get it out there, but we are far from sure how that will work out as this is also our first independent release. We didn't have a clue what we were doing when making the movie, and we still don't now that it is finished. So it's exciting times.

Like you say, to let it grow organically, can be a solid way of making a movie. Our cast, we found along the way. One of our main characters, we met in the week we started filming his part. It was pretty stupid. But worked out, so we were lucky.
I think it's important to be determined to finish it. At a certain point it is probably wise to set a deadline. The good thing about our situation was that we are only a two-man band. So it's easy to quickly make decisions with a small team, but there is still always someone who triggers the other to continue on the project. This helps in finishing it.

We are not going for Epic as of now. Our Red One does all we need at the moment. But we'll see what happens :)
 
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