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While Waiting: Poll: When do you guys think EPIC stage 2 hits the streets?

While Waiting: Poll: When do you guys think EPIC stage 2 hits the streets?

  • August 2010

    Votes: 42 13.0%

  • September 2010

    Votes: 46 14.3%

  • October 2010

    Votes: 59 18.3%

  • November 2010

    Votes: 49 15.2%

  • December 2010

    Votes: 36 11.2%

  • January 2011

    Votes: 27 8.4%

  • February 2011

    Votes: 14 4.3%

  • March 2011

    Votes: 14 4.3%

  • NAB 2011

    Votes: 20 6.2%

  • In a year or so

    Votes: 15 4.7%
  • Total voters
    322
For the love of God, if Epic hits NAB 2011 what about Scarlet? NAB 2012?

We're all aging here, come on.
 
Count:

Soderbergh is rolling Contagion in September.

Tattoo need minimum three (3) months of field testing.

Some of us maybe will get Epic-X for Christmas?????!!!!!

Production needs also about three (3) months to get all the things under quality product control...

Larger shipping volume will start just a week or two before NAB 2011.

Big launch party and presentation of Epic and also Scarlet at Tropicana Hotel in Las Vegas 2011.

Scarlet will start to ship in June 2011.

All the competitors from DSLR makers to the cine digital camera brands will in a big panic for the next two or even more years...
 
I think the 3 month testing period to be a misleading number. How long it will take remains to be seen, longer or shorter than 3 months after tattoo.

I believe Red has learned much from the first venture of the Red One and could roll on stage II soon. OTOH, it could take longer. One thing for sure IMO is that to start a ticking clock the second tattoos hit won't lead to any definite conclusions.
 
Many well known posters have been suspiciously quiet here lately. Their silence is causing much concern among the REDuser Intelligence Community. Something's up. Something BIG is up!...

(Or maybe everyone is just on vacation)
 
All I know is that I'm already starting to give up on shooting my first feature next year on a Scarlet.

Like I already did in 2010.
 
It's funny (well, sort of) reading the first few replies in this thread. I had originally (back in March/April) counted on a delivery (early stage 2) around January 2011. I'd be more than happy if that could still happen, but seeing how long it's been taking for simpler things such as the CF reader to ship, I wouldn't be surprised if Epic didn't ship before NAB.
I don't mind the wait, especially when it brings us such interesting developments as HDRx™™. In the meantime R1 is working flawlessly and capturing beautiful footage.
That being said, can you please hurry up and ship me my Epic tomorrow? :biggrinjester:
 
Alexey Datsenko said:
Look at this! How many naive people in one place! Aug + Sept+Oct+Nov+Dec = 75%!:)
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This is the second time most of them have been naive... the first time was when they bought a SCAMera called the Red One. Some were "Realists" who didn't believe. Now those doubters will have to wait until those of us who were naive get our cameras. Sorry for your loss.
 
Is there any news about Red finding a new manufacturer for scarlets ?
 
Elsie N said:
This is the second time most of them have been naive... the first time was when they bought a SCAMera called the Red One. Some were "Realists" who didn't believe. Now those doubters will have to wait until those of us who were naive get our cameras. Sorry for your loss.
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Your words are just trying to trick the reality! It is ill practice! Who bought the RED ONE bought the most cool camera in the world! And real camera! And these people were not naive because even full layman know that what he see is the coolest picture after celluloid! These people were very pragmatic! And only about 8000 people have bought RED ONE! Not All of us! I knew what it is The RED ONE from my first view on it's picture and every man in the industry knew it! But I couldn't buy it because of high prices! So don't tell me that everybody bought the camera who knew what was this camera 3 years ago! And I have been waiting for The more cheap Scarlet for 1 year for 2008 then one more year for 2009, then for 2010 And now I see i will not see Scarlet for one more year or two Who knows! I hold my 15K for Scarlet for 3 years and I understand I can wait else 1 or 2 years again! So don't tell me that everythings is ok! Everything is not Ok! it is ok for you because you have RED ONE you can wait easly 1-3 years! And All my projects are slowly dieing! So I have the reasons to scream! And any reasons for delays are not working because promise is promise and delay is death in any case! So don't fool me by yoir tricks! Most of people in voiting are fully in illusions! It is fact! 75% were sure they will see Epic in the end of 2010! This illusion was crushed! And you are just extricating oneself from a difficult situation! Only now I understand that it was mistake to wait Scarlet and I had to but RED ONE 1-2 years ago and I want to do it now! But agait the RED ONE has became 7500 more expensive! So now I just trying to buy used RED ONE with M-sensor for about 20K! So don't tell me that al these 75% were right and I was not when I have chosen Epic's date end of 2011! Let's see who can bee pragmatic in a short time!
 
Alexey Datsenko said:
Your words are just trying to trick the reality! It is ill practice! Who bought the RED ONE bought the most cool camera in the world! And real camera! And these people were not naive because even full layman know that what he see is the coolest picture after celluloid! These people were very pragmatic!
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Alexy, the first buyers were not buying a real camera. They put down a $500 deposit on Jim's word alone. The working prototypes had not even been built at that time. I was looking at a Panasonic P2 system at the time and read on DVXuser about this new camera that was going to be built. Like you, I didn't have the money to buy one of the cameras at the time and after some internal discussion, decided that all I could lose was $500 if I couldn't raise the rest of the $17,500 in time. Then I decided to double down and put down another $500 for a second camera. So many of us did take a leap of faith.

And only about 8000 people have bought RED ONE! Not All of us! I knew what it is The RED ONE from my first view on it's picture and every man in the industry knew it! But I couldn't buy it because of high prices! So don't tell me that everybody bought the camera who knew what was this camera 3 years ago! And I have been waiting for The more cheap Scarlet for 1 year for 2008 then one more year for 2009, then for 2010 And now I see i will not see Scarlet for one more year or two Who knows! I hold my 15K for Scarlet for 3 years and I understand I can wait else 1 or 2 years again! So don't tell me that everythings is ok! Everything is not Ok! it is ok for you because you have RED ONE you can wait easly 1-3 years! And All my projects are slowly dieing! So I have the reasons to scream!
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I just don't share your pessimism, but I understand how your frustration could lead to that. I've seen RED deliver time after time, and I've seen them deliver, usually, something much better than they promised. This sometimes "free upgrade" is unprecedented in general business practices.

And yes I have one of my RED Ones left and a project to be shot. But I have chosen to delay that project until I can capture it with Motion Magic and HDRx™. Still, my project takes place in the future so it is not time-sensitive and so will not run out of use-by date. This may not be the case for you and I feel your pain if that is so.

And any reasons for delays are not working because promise is promise and delay is death in any case! So don't fool me by yoir tricks! Most of people in voiting are fully in illusions! It is fact! 75% were sure they will see Epic in the end of 2010! This illusion was crushed! And you are just extricating oneself from a difficult situation! Only now I understand that it was mistake to wait Scarlet and I had to but RED ONE 1-2 years ago and I want to do it now! But agait the RED ONE has became 7500 more expensive! So now I just trying to buy used RED ONE with M-sensor for about 20K! So don't tell me that al these 75% were right and I was not when I have chosen Epic's date end of 2011! Let's see who can bee pragmatic in a short time!
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Maybe if we all think positive thoughts we can will this camera's release.

C'mon Alexy, your negative vibes may be what is causing the problems. Maybe we should all just OOOOHHHHHHMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Alexey Datsenko said:
Look at this! How many naive people in one place! Aug + Sept+Oct+Nov+Dec = 75%!:)
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We really won't know who is pessimistic, optimistic, naive or realistic until it actually ships, will we.

There's still an entire quarter of the year left. Can't we just leave it alone?

If you claim to know when it will ship, you are the craziest one at the party. :ack2:
 
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