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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci Resolve V7.0 Supports Rocket

DaVinci Resolve on a Mac for R3D with Rocket, Nvidia, storage and monitor is still cheaper package than a Scratch solution.
 
So I'm assuming this will mean "Real time" rendering of .R3D files on Resolve with a REDRocket. Does anyone have an idea of what the rendering times are on a full-blown linux system without the REDRocket?
 
Well, for me, the benefits of a system like Resolve for the Mac is the bump in productivity. I can get decent results from Color using R3Ds. Where it's a problem is the lack of support for Rocket right now. That could change. Adding Realtime functionality is what takes a mostly non-client supervised session into the realm of having client's over your shoulder and getting things done faster. It won't solve everything, as some higher end systems have more bells and whistles and are worth the extra money for a lot of facilities. Resolve seems like the right fit for my client base, but until it's here and tested I can't say whether it's the perfect fit.

In terms of overall expense, it's very hard to cut corners in a finishing suite. You need certain tools, and often you really do get what you pay for. Color science is a tricky thing. It's easy to mess up. When set up properly with the right tools, the right environment, and some experience it can put a lot of the focus on the art.

I'm very curious about the final specs of Resolve, so I'll wait patiently until they arrive.
 
hmmn... Dunno, correct me if wrong, but realtime debayering does not mean real time color correction.....
 
Frank, we're not precluding the "correction" part in there, it's just that even with a good colorist (not all projects have to be corrected on high-end systems!) rendering takes forever on software like color. It would be grand if the rendering didn't take centuries....and I think that's what some of us are talking about. Best-of-class color correction takes experience and time and money, we won't argue that here I think.
 
Steve Sherrick said:
It won't solve everything, as some higher end systems have more bells and whistles and are worth the extra money for a lot of facilities.
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what kind of bells and whistles do you feel Resolve is lacking? While on a subject, what other "higher end system" works withProres, Cineform, DnxHD, R3D and can write Prores?
 
Jake, for one, I know Baselight with the kompressor option can do it.
 
Okay, first of all bear with me, just learning Motion Editing ;~)

About to purchase a new Mac Pro not sure if I need 12 core or not, to use with RR, and have both FCS and Adobe Production Premium, so should I get the Davinci resolve to have even a better workflow and Color correction possibilities then Color?

Also which would be the best Surface Color system to get for it?
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
Also which would be the best Surface Color system to get for it?
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The BEST would be the Resolve Control Surface for US$29,995. I am just going to go with the Tangent Wave...

EDIT: Actually, the $29,995 includes the license for Mac which is $995 value. So the Control Surface is $29,000.
 
It should be noted that the Linux version will only be sold as a system via resellers at a base price (1 GPU) of $85,000.

Then again, it's still a bargain.
 
Well Rick, that isn't such a bargain anymore....
 
Curran Giddens said:
The BEST would be the Resolve Control Surface for US$29,995. I am just going to go with the Tangent Wave...

EDIT: Actually, the $29,995 includes the license for Mac which is $995 value. So the Control Surface is $29,000.
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He he, no kidding Curran,

not sure I will be willing to put that much cash on a Coloring system, unless off course it would be absolutely a necessity, but sure looking to get something real sweet as a set up to take to Italy for my new Studio.

Would be a hell of a way to stat learning he he.
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
He he, no kidding Curran,

not sure I will be willing to put that much cash on a Coloring system, unless off course it would be absolutely a necessity, but sure looking to get something real sweet as a set up to take to Italy for my new Studio.

Would be a hell of a way to stat learning he he.
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Hey Ketch - if you get Red Pro Primes instead of those stupid-expensive Leicas, you could buy the kickass DaVinci system AND have money left over to hire good colorists to grade your first feature or two :P

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Frank Cueto said:
Jake, for one, I know Baselight with the kompressor option can do it.
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Does Baselight now works with Cineform too? I did mention all those codecs:-) BTW, how much is the Kompressor option? Doesn't Kompressor requires at least a separate Mac pro with a copy of FCP Studio?
 
Rick Turners said:
It should be noted that the Linux version will only be sold as a system via resellers at a base price (1 GPU) of $85,000.

Then again, it's still a bargain.
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I'm confused. This is from Blackmagic site
"If you need more power for high resolutions such as 2K or 4K, stereoscopic 3D feature films, or real time grading of raw RED files, then just upgrade your DaVinci Resolve with Control Surface to a full Linux software license.
Available from selected DaVinci resellers, adding this software license lets you smash the limitations of a single computer"
Where does it say, that you have to buy a system?
 
I do believe that the Baselight will be able to work with any codec thats available on the mac. Yes you do have to buy it, and the mac pro, and it is nice to have a 10-gig-E connection amongst them. I have no clue how much it is, didn't even bother pricing it.

Usually (and I know some one here will have an example to prove me wrong) When a client has the budget to come grade at our facility they make sure to bring us the purest form of their material, and so far that has never included cineform or prores.
 
Frank Cueto said:
I do believe that the Baselight will be able to work with any codec thats available on the mac. Yes you do have to buy it, and the mac pro, and it is nice to have a 10-gig-E connection amongst them. I have no clue how much it is, didn't even bother pricing it.

Usually (and I know some one here will have an example to prove me wrong) When a client has the budget to come grade at our facility they make sure to bring us the purest form of their material, and so far that has never included cineform or prores.
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Cineform has nothing to do with Mac. It's crossplatform and has great following in post production community.
10GE is not cheap.
Just because nobody asked you to use Prores or Cineform doesn't mean, that it's unnecessary.
Saying "Baselight will be able to work with any codec thats available on the mac" doesn't mean it's available now.
I just want to reiterate my original point. Resolve is the ONLY system right now, regardless of price, that is capable of reading and writing Prores, Cineform, DnxHD (separate license), H264, R3d (well read only for now) etc. I think it's pretty remarkable at any price...
 
jake blackstone said:
Saying "Baselight will be able to work with any codec thats available on the mac" doesn't mean it's available now.
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Yes, it is available now. You're paraphrasing where it's not necessary. The correct statement is "Baselight can work with any codec that's available on the Mac via the Kompressor option."

I just want to reiterate my original point. Resolve is the ONLY system right now, regardless of price, that is capable of reading and writing Prores, Cineform, DnxHD (separate license), H264, R3d (well read only for now) etc. I think it's pretty remarkable at any price...
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That is not the case, as stated above.
 
jake blackstone said:
I'm confused. This is from Blackmagic site
"If you need more power for high resolutions such as 2K or 4K, stereoscopic 3D feature films, or real time grading of raw RED files, then just upgrade your DaVinci Resolve with Control Surface to a full Linux software license.
Available from selected DaVinci resellers, adding this software license lets you smash the limitations of a single computer"
Where does it say, that you have to buy a system?
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I'm not sure, I'm guessing the details hadn't yet been worked out.

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/911
 
Looks like I should dig into Resolve on Mac.
 
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