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10 Scarlet Questions from Joseph Hutson

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pc2099 said:
Yeah I kinda think they need to rush things a little...or at the very least move at an accelerated pace. I know you get crucified for drawing parallels with Scarlet and the 7D or 5D MkII but when corporations like FOX back the filming of an ENTIRE episode(and a high rating quality one at that)on the back of 'line skipping' DSLr technology...makes you think.

Sure the specs of the Scarlet blow any DSLr out of the water...but they are here today, sitting in stores while Scarlet is just specs on a website(to us anyway) When Scarlet is released in 6-12-18 months time and in any quantity of numbers...what gen technology will Canon be on? or Nikon for that matter?

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hmmm... there is one spec where the Scarlet 2/3s do not blow the 7D, and particularly the 5D out of the water, and that is shallow depth of field. That is one of the things that makes those 5D pictures so gorgeous, a shallower depthe of field than a Red One, or any other Digital Cinema camera for that matter.

Even once the Scarlet 2/3s are out, there will still be a demand for FF35, and for that, from Red, we'll have to wait a while longer, until then, the 5D will still be an attractive camera, and who knows what Canon, or Nikon, or others will come out with by then.

Cheers,
Damien
 
Jarred Land said:

3 What priority will RED One owners have over those who have been saving all funding for Scarlets/tons of modules?

RED ONE owners who have not executed their cameras for Stages 1-3 of the EPIC program will have a short window of priority on Scarlet packages.[/I]
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So I guess this reads that all of us that are in stages 1 to 3, will have to wait to get our Scarlets after those that have not Executed their R1's get a chance to get theirs?

After that first come first serve?

I think at this point I will likely only get one Fixed Scarlet, but will surely get TWO 2/3 Interchangeable Scarlets for S3D Rig, so just kinda of trying to understand this.

Thanks for the update Jarred, and thanks Joseph for posing the Questions, you inquisitive little one, he he.
 
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thanks RED!
 
Thanks!!! I needed that.

I said it when the specs were first announced, and I'll say it again:

#21 is going to use the output from the gyros (which we already know is saved in metadata) along with software and maybe firmware to make a virtual steadicam.
Makes sense since Scarlet Fixed is the run and gun Red.

Along with money saved on the included modules and free software, that makes Scarlet Fixed almost free!

Oh, and dust/weathersealing too, please.
 
Jarred Land said:
But please... No pink.
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Denied!!!!

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Jay Gannon said:
But how long will the shallow depth of field fad last?
Many people strive for deep focus!
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It may be a fad for some, but I think for most it is :

1. A directing tool, use to isolate part of a scene, the spectator (obvioulsy) looks where the image is sharp

2. An esthetic choice, sometimes deep focus is desirable, other times not, but in most cases I can't help prefering images where only a portion of what is in the frame is sharp.

3. A financial choice, lighting and decorating a scene where only a smalll portion of it is in focus is much cheaper thant the when everything is in focus

I strongly believe, the demand for shallow depth of field will continue for a long time to come.

Cheers,
Damien
 
Thanks for the update, Jarred! Quick follow-up question:

Jarred Land said:
These algorithms are pretty hardcore.. The same algorithms used on the EPIC to control autofocus on the RED FF35 lenses ( and canon and nikon electronic lenses ) have trickled down to Scarlet.
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So, does the S35 Scarlet with a Canon or Nikon mount also inherit these autofocus algorithms? Or is that limited to the Epic & Fixed Scarlet cameras?
 
Oh no sorry that came across wrong, I'm talking about shooting at 1.4 on FF35, its unnessesary. Shallow depth of field 4-5.6 has a place as a storytelling tool but shooting daylight ext at 1.4 with 3 ND's is just a fad in my opinion.
 
Damien Molineaux said:
It may be a fad for some, but I think for most it is :

1. A directing tool, use to isolate part of a scene, the spectator (obvioulsy) looks where the image is sharp

2. An esthetic choice, sometimes deep focus is desirable, other times not, but in most cases I can't help prefering images where only a portion of what is in the frame is sharp.

3. A financial choice, lighting and decorating a scene where only a smalll portion of it is in focus is much cheaper thant the when everything is in focus

I strongly believe, the demand for shallow depth of field will continue for a long time to come.

Cheers,
Damien
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My only qualm with 5D shallow depth of field is that many of the people shooting with these cameras are having a very difficult time pulling focus. As great as this camera has been, I've had to look at a lot of out of focus shots, which has been unfortunate because when it's in focus, it's a nice image. In more controlled environments, with experienced pullers, maybe the issue is lessened.
 
Jarred, can I get my Scarlet in mauve? Could be a deal breaker for me.
 
Lee Saxon said:
Sounds like things are coming along!

A bit disappointed with 7.5-60, I hoped for a little wider. Wish it'd been 6-48 (or heck, 6-30, I have a DSLR if I wanna shoot football games).

A shame the most cost-effective option isn't ideal for me, but I'm still a happy customer 'cause we have the Interchangeable + MiniPrimes option! Keep it up, Red.
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Lee, as an underwater shooter I'd like a 5mm or wider :-), but that medium wide to short tele is the sweet spot for cost effective, reasonably fast, and reasonably sized zooms (the wider you go the bigger and heavier that front element needs to be) and remember RED is also trying to incorporate minimal breathing - all in a lens that needs to be more than 50% sharper than a 1080P HD lens. If they can pull off the necessary resolution AND minimal breathing it truly will be a revolutionary product. And if they can get two of them to accurately track zoom with the remote, it very well may become the default 3D stereo camera for several years to come.

And a good .8x wide converter will get you to 6mm; .75x gets you to 5.6. Either .8x or .75x is very doable in a high quality zoom through converter with minimal light loss. I believe RED has their own coming but if not Schneider/Century certainly will.
 
I think the exciting thing is that we may be able to see footage next weekend. Things are getting very interesting around here. The updates just get better and better :)
 
Steve Sherrick said:
My only qualm with 5D shallow depth of field is that many of the people shooting with these cameras are having a very difficult time pulling focus.
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Not so much on this side.
 
Damien Molineaux said:
hmmm... there is one spec where the Scarlet 2/3s do not blow the 7D, and particularly the 5D out of the water, and that is shallow depth of field. That is one of the things that makes those 5D pictures so gorgeous, a shallower depthe of field than a Red One, or any other Digital Cinema camera for that matter.

Even once the Scarlet 2/3s are out, there will still be a demand for FF35, and for that, from Red, we'll have to wait a while longer, until then, the 5D will still be an attractive camera, and who knows what Canon, or Nikon, or others will come out with by then.

Cheers,
Damien
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No offense, and this is not personal, but I think if I hear another reference to DSLRs and shallow DOF I am going to throw up. The obsession with it, especially on this forum, borders on the insane. It's as if no one can figure out how to make a film look good any other way. Enough already! :rant:

OK - I am calm now...
 
Terry VerHaar said:
No offense, and this is not personal, but I think if I hear another reference to DSLRs and shallow DOF I am going to throw up. The obsession with it, especially on this forum, borders on the insane. It's as if no one can figure out how to make a film look good any other way. Enough already! :rant:

OK - I am calm now...
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You obviously haven't visited DVXuser.com. :laugh:
 
Jarred Land said:
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4 What is the current weight of the Fixed Scarlet/lens?

Current weight of Fixed Scarlet is just over 4.5 pounds.

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I was obsessing about this all night.... If this is true, I am a very happy camper as it makes the possibilities for a steadicam unit very attractive. But I keep think that the Epic brain alone is close to 5 lbs. so how could the Scarlet with the fixed zoom be 4.5 pounds? Glass is not very light! Clearly, Joseph was asking the question about combined weight but was Jarred actually answering that way? Could the fixed Scarlet really come in around 4.5 pounds for brain with lens? Clarification could help me sleep better tonight! Thanks. :eek:
 
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