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MacPro with new Rocket won't go to sleep

Jean Déraps

Jean Déraps

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I just got my Rocket today and now I've tried to put the MacPro to sleep... and it won't. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jean Déraps
 
I asked about this some time ago and the answer was that the Rocket can't go to sleep but that they might implement it later. Then there was also some discussion in which was said that it is actually better to leave your computer on all the time.

With the huge list of things to do and unwillingness to see the problem that probably means 'forget about it'.
 
Sander, thanks for the info.

In this day and age, where the goal should be saving as much energy as possible, I feel that the idea of leaving computers on all the time when they're not being used isn't justifiable. On top of that, I personally don't believe that with modern computers that it's actually useful to leave them on. It can't possibly be rocket science - pun intended - to make the Rocket go to sleep when needed...

J Davis - do you think the Rocket is trying to tell me something? lol
 
Any chance of an update on the "not allowing sleep mode" issue with the rocket?

I realize there are arguments for just leaving it on, but a warm start (sleep) is always better than a cold start over and over, and saves a bunch of energy over leaving the thing run all the time.

I currently pull the card when it's not needed, but that's not a good long term solution due to the insertion cycles on the slots.
 
1) get more work, and let the RR process footage all night long
2) just turn off your computer, between jobs...
 
Yes, this has been something I would give my left pinky for, for a while. RED is the only manufacturer (ok, designer, in this case) that disallows it, out of the endless esoteric pieces of audio and video gear I've got and had, NONE would prevent sleep. But alas....

Maybe if we beg. loudly. or a lot.
 
Jean Déraps said:
Sander, thanks for the info.

In this day and age, where the goal should be saving as much energy as possible, I feel that the idea of leaving computers on all the time when they're not being used isn't justifiable. On top of that, I personally don't believe that with modern computers that it's actually useful to leave them on. It can't possibly be rocket science - pun intended - to make the Rocket go to sleep when needed...

J Davis - do you think the Rocket is trying to tell me something? lol
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Just a thought:

If you want to save power why not just shut off completely the computer?

Doesn't constant on degrade components quicker as well?

All in all, I've always had problems with suspended mode, never worked quite right for me in may system configurations.
 
You just fed the thing a steroid, crack, jet-fuel milkshake for heavens sake!!!

Gosh! Some people...

...all you can do is let it play and hope it tires itself out soon.

;)
 
The cold start( power) makes no good to machine in long term.
Too much energy released... better let them turned ON than ( if can't sleep)...
" a warm start (sleep) is always better than a cold start over and over"
Just my 0,02 and my older macs as witness.
 
Raphael Varandas said:
The cold start( power) makes no good to machine in long term.
Too much energy released... better let them turned ON than ( if can't sleep)...
" a warm start (sleep) is always better than a cold start over and over"
Just my 0,02 and my older macs as witness.
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Unless somebody can show me a report of research done and this was the outcome I am going to say this is an urban myth. In fact, if you do a search most of the information that comes up on the internet says that it does not harm your computer to shut it down and start it up.

And of course you're also waisting lots of energy if you leave it on all the time.
 
It's actually founded in electrical theory, search for inrush current on cold components. In general that's the single hardest point on all the little resisters/capacitors/etc when you first turn on the power to a cold machine. It takes a few milliseconds for the power supply regulation to kick in, capacitors to fill up, and correct voltage to be output.

Equipment that has been on for years will tend to stay running - right up till you cycle the power when components that were "working" tend to stop working because they have been slowly degrading over the years without notice.

A good analogy is like your car, it's something like 80-90% of all engine wear is in the first few seconds of starting your engine because it's metal on metal contact due to the fact that overnight all the oil goes to the sump and has to be pumped back into all the crevices of the engine before it's "protected" again.

sander kamp said:
Unless somebody can show me a report of research done and this was the outcome I am going to say this is an urban myth. In fact, if you do a search most of the information that comes up on the internet says that it does not harm your computer to shut it down and start it up.

And of course you're also waisting lots of energy if you leave it on all the time.
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Joel Jameson said:
It's actually founded in electrical theory, search for inrush current on cold components. In general that's the single hardest point on all the little resisters/capacitors/etc when you first turn on the power to a cold machine. It takes a few milliseconds for the power supply regulation to kick in, capacitors to fill up, and correct voltage to be output.
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Again: this is the theory. Where are the numbers?

Do you leave your RED camera on all the time? Your car running? The air conditioning? The tv?
 
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