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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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They won't release new cars until the next mac pro bumps. It could be a complete remodel, with new cases and hopefully new displays. Since leopard will be ready by october, and with this new return to mac games, we should expect some overhauls by then...

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acho que a paulista esta certo. (I think the guy from sao paulo is right). There is alot of time before. leopard is released, we may see some hardware changes by then. how strange mac and games, I never think mac and games. this is one of the reasons why I use a PC. another is that adobe software doesnt work all that well on a mac. premiere crashes a lot.
 
Yay now PC users can feel the pain of Safari for themselves!

Why on earth hasn't Apple just given up on Safari and put all their money into Firefox development...
 
Hmm, I don't know, maybe because Safari is more than twice as fast as FireFox? And maybe because it's a lot better? I don't know, could have something to do with that ;)

Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about. The only pain PC users ever felt is the pain of using the world's worst of pretty much everything -- worst operating system ever made, Winblows, worst browser ever made, IE, and basically the worst possible user experience of everything.

And yes, 13 years of using PCs, 2 years of using Macs, I'm very bitter about my PC experiences. I use REAL computers now, i.e ones without viruses that don't crash constantly and that don't have constant problems doing very simple tasks. From a company that actually innovates, doesn't just copy everything already done before by its rival (Windows was a cheap knockoff of Mac's graphical user interface, then Vista is a really bad knockoff of OS X, only it's still not even close to as good as Tiger, let alone Leopard, so it's really a joke for everyone involved how a multi, multi-billion dollar company arrives at such a terrible operating system).
 
JonathanLB said:
Hmm, I don't know, maybe because Safari is more than twice as fast as FireFox? And maybe because it's a lot better? I don't know, could have something to do with that ;)

Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about. The only pain PC users ever felt is the pain of using the world's worst of pretty much everything -- worst operating system ever made, Winblows, worst browser ever made, IE, and basically the worst possible user experience of everything.

And yes, 13 years of using PCs, 2 years of using Macs, I'm very bitter about my PC experiences. I use REAL computers now, i.e ones without viruses that don't crash constantly and that don't have constant problems doing very simple tasks. From a company that actually innovates, doesn't just copy everything already done before by its rival (Windows was a cheap knockoff of Mac's graphical user interface, then Vista is a really bad knockoff of OS X, only it's still not even close to as good as Tiger, let alone Leopard, so it's really a joke for everyone involved how a multi, multi-billion dollar company arrives at such a terrible operating system).
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Another platform war? Geez...

There's good and bad with every platform. I have both Mac and PC at home and work professionally with both Mac and PC. Rolling back a graphics driver is my perfect example of how both OSs have a long way to go.

Windows: A whole bunch of clicking around and multiple windows in multiple places with at least a reboot or two. Several places where things can go wrong, requiring more windows and more reboots.

OSX: You can't. Drivers are built into the core. Only way to do it is to also roll back the OS and lose all the benefits that the new OS spin brought.

Also... the Mac GUI was also a "knockoff" of the work done at Xerox PARC. The Xerox 8010 (1981) was the first commercial computer with a GUI. A lot of the early PARC engineers actually went to work for Apple and helped develop the GUI for the first Mac (1984.) Innovation is rarely done in a vacuum...

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
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I agree with Lucas -- I use both platforms and both have their good and bad. As for Apple, they're not as innovative as they get credit for. Most of their run-away successes, including the iPod, were just their entry into an existing market. Apple does innovate on occasion, but what they do better than anyone else is taking an existing concept and polishing it up for the masses.
 
I wouldn't mind safari so much if it just responded to my forward and back buttons on my Microsoft wireless intellimouse explorer. Its strange to actually have to click back. honestly Id buy a mac, because i'd have more software options (being able to run final cut on osx and adobe software on vista (and not have it crash every 5 seconds)). also I like the way they look nice and sleek. The problem is that their hardware is sooo over priced. i could build my own system , and always have upgrade options for about half the price with better components.
 
shutter said:
I wouldn't mind safari so much if it just responded to my forward and back buttons on my Microsoft wireless intellimouse explorer.
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The forward and back buttons on my wired Intellimouse certainly work fine in Safari. Have you got the Microsoft mouse driver installed?
 
shutter said:
The problem is that their hardware is sooo over priced. i could build my own system , and always have upgrade options for about half the price with better components.
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With Apple's latest offerings, their prices aren't bad at all. Especially considering the quality level of their hardware. It's very difficult to build a PC with this level of components for much less than what Apple charges. And you get their OS, support, etc... You're not out the time of building a system.

I still build all my own PCs, have for years -- even used to run a computer shop that did custom workstations and gaming systems. These days I don't do it for cost savings, I do it to get the exact components and config that I want since most PC vendors don't have the same idea I do about what I want. A Mac is far more reasonably priced than buying something from a PC company like BOXX. I've found that the time I save by not pricing out all the best part deals and then screwing around with building a system is far more valuable than the small bit of money saved on the parts.

Just don't buy your RAM and hard drives from Apple and you'll be OK -- except in the case of the Macbook [Pro]. They have them priced so it makes little sense to do otherwise, especially given the surgery that must be performed to swap a hard drive on the MBP.

Anyway, long winded reply there, but I have to roll my eyes at the "Apple is overpriced" argument. My computers make me money. And lately I make a larger return on my Mac systems. Not bad for a system that has a total cost no more than 10% higher than a PC built of top of the line hardware and is up and running in less time.

I still wouldn't consider Mac hardware for render nodes and I think their XServe line, especially the outdated RAID systems, are grossly overpriced, but that's a bit different market. XServe systems are still priced cheaper than competing systems from IBM and Sun and IMO, the Apple 1U XServe is built a lot nicer.
 
Nick Shaw said:
The forward and back buttons on my wired Intellimouse certainly work fine in Safari. Have you got the Microsoft mouse driver installed?
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Yeah, probably a driver or config issue. I've got a Logitech S530 keyboard and mouse on my G5 quad and really like it. One of the displays and the KB/mouse are connected to a PC, but the numerical pad and special buttons don't work on the PC. :ranting2: Logitech just needs to release the driver already, which was supposed to be out 2 months ago.
 
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