Watch movies at home for only $500 each!

[Freya]

Wondering how red ray is going to hold up to this ULTIMATE home cinema setup!

It does a staggering 1080p at 10 bit 4:2:2 apparently?

http://www.redsharknews.com/distribution/item/600-watch-current-box-office-movies-at-home-for-$500-each

What do you think guys? Does this herald the end for red ray?

Freya

 

[Chris Elkerton]

Wow! Bargin.

 

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

If you film the screen with your Epic, you can make a copy.

 

[Freya]

Don't forget tho this amazing new format has the USP that you can watch movies in the comfort of your own home without having to endure sticky floors, discarded popcorn and peoples mobiles going off. A video format that you can watch without leaving the house!

Oh!.. hang on...

 

[Marc Wielage]

Wondering how red ray is going to hold up to this ULTIMATE home cinema setup!

RedRay isn't going to send you a current studio blockbuster the day it comes out in theaters. The whole point to this (very limited) high-end device is getting a movie quick, not getting a movie ​good.

 

[Kwan Khan]

Seriously?
$35,000 for the player and $500 per film and thats to watch a film once, within 24 hours, you don't get to keep it?

 

[Steve Sherrick]

There will probably be appeal to a segment of the population to which this is the equivalent of the price of a Roku and a Netflix subscription.

I can safely say I'll be sticking with the Roku for now.

 

[Kwan Khan]

There will probably be appeal to a segment of the population to which this is the equivalent of the price of a Roku and a Netflix subscription.

I can safely say I'll be sticking with the Roku for now.

Exactly

 

[mark haflich]

This information, pricing, yada yada has been known for months and discussed in many other forums. its interesting to see similar comments appearing in this thread many months later as if its new news for which insight is needed. I bought 18 of these servers, one for every room in my palace. Yea right. You have to give them one thing. Unlike Red they have delivered a server and have content for single play $500 a crack from a few studios who have signed up with them. While I think the concept is ridiculous, there have been rich people who have purchased the server and all the company needs do is to sell a few to recoup its start up costs. Red has so far delivered neither its server or provided a source for content. Red has entered unchartered territory for it by choosing to market the Redray to HT consumers without knowing what HT consumers expect. Potential early HT adopters have become disgusted with Red and Odemax. They are not like members of the film production family who see Red as some sort of industry saver allowing access to high quality cameras at an affordable price. HT consumers perceive Red as blowing smoke up their rears and Odemax as a complete joke. Like you feel $35K for a server is a cost recovery rip off, they see the Redray price of $1450 as ridiculous and from posts in other forums will now await cheap delivery boxes and 4K content in various consumer pipelines. Red has blown its opportunity for the Redray and content in the HT consumer market.

 

[Brian Merlen]

I wouldn't bet my farm on that, for all you know they ship it at NAB and Redray dominates the market... I mean 4k tv's ain't cheap right now anyway, you complain about a player that costs not even 1,500, when the cheapest tv (sharp) is 7 grand? and the next cheapest player is built into what a 20-30k sony tv? get real dude, its all relative. by the prices i just quoted red ray is by far the cheapest game in town

 

[Peter Proniewicz-Brooks]

RedRay isn't going to send you a current studio blockbuster the day it comes out in theaters. The whole point to this (very limited) high-end device is getting a movie quick, not getting a movie ​good.

This the same REDray that's capable of outputting to a projector expecting DCP material and announced as connected to a distribution service that has special payment models for theatres, and while the smaller projector it is built into is only for 15' screens and smaller, theLarger ones it is built are aimed at theatres. The one built by a company known for championing high image quality? That REDray that isn't designed to be reliving quality?

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Oh, man... Just what I've been waiting for! I hate those sticky floors at the cineplex!!!

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I think I'm going to get a second one to attach to my 110" LCD in the bathroom. I'm getting tired of watching nothing but waterfalls and sunsets on that thing.

 

[Freya]

RedRay isn't going to send you a current studio blockbuster the day it comes out in theaters. The whole point to this (very limited) high-end device is getting a movie quick, not getting a movie ​good.

Ah! Thanks Marc, that does kinda make sense! You can still get to see the latest movies just as soon as everybody else but you don't have to mix with the hoi poloi. Maybe you can even invite a few friends over to the estate or the luxury basement. Whether they will come is another matter?

I can actually see how this could be popular over here.

Freya

 

[Marc Wielage]

Ah! Thanks Marc, that does kinda make sense! You can still get to see the latest movies just as soon as everybody else but you don't have to mix with the hoi poloi. Maybe you can even invite a few friends over to the estate or the luxury basement. Whether they will come is another matter?

I think the official maximum audience per license is 25 people. Beyond that, you have to pay the actual commercial theater rate, which would be significantly higher. I see this as a rich man's gimmick, sort of like what Hugh Hefner used to do at the Playboy mansion: invite two dozen of his closest friends and associates over to watch a brand-new Hollywood blockbuster in his home theater using a print loaned by one of the major studios.

This the same REDray that's capable of outputting to a projector expecting DCP material...

The jury is still out as to whether the Digital Cinema Distribution Coalition will want to open up their market to third-party sources like Red:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/08/movie-studios-sign-on-for-satellite-based-digital-delivery-to-th/

Perhaps Red will have an announcement at NAB next week.

 

[mark haflich]

I think I'm going to get a second one to attach to my 110" LCD in the bathroom. I'm getting tired of watching nothing but waterfalls and sunsets on that thing.

There are two entirely different reasons for why waterfalls are often displayed on bathroom displays. First, the power of suggestion. Second, to provide masking sounds if case the power of suggestion works.

 

[mark haflich]

I wouldn't bet my farm on that, for all you know they ship it at NAB and Redray dominates the market... I mean 4k tv's ain't cheap right now anyway, you complain about a player that costs not even 1,500, when the cheapest tv (sharp) is 7 grand? and the next cheapest player is built into what a 20-30k sony tv? get real dude, its all relative. by the prices i just quoted red ray is by far the cheapest game in town

Brian. I didn't know you were a farmer. What do you raise or grow? Cigar wrapper tobacco leaf was grown in CT when I was a kid. I do work in the CE industry and from talking to many upper end consumers they are not happy at all with Red. This segment is not like the impoverished independent film industry or even well to do segments. Red and its we have more important things to do attitude has already substantially alienated them. They when told of the rapid coming of Redray and Odemax, hyped to high hell by Red and appearing in much press as the bought into it, were behind Red. Even though this community has the bucks to buy 4K panels and projectors which BTW are coming down in price not withstanding statement piece prices were willing to pay $1450. No longer. Its changed. Competitors that they know about are coming like Sony and server prices will be cheap. The server is not built into the panel. And Sony has content. Red has Odemax, which to me means they have zilch. If Red starting shipping the Redray tomorrow, I wouldn't buy one until content became available. And when content becomes available players will be available for a hell of a lot less than $1450. Kind of ironic that Red will be the one undercut re servers rather than it being an undercutter re cameras.

 

[Rob Anderson]

I might be one of the few, but I have to say, $500 for a current, in-theaters, major picture is pretty awesome. Having a dozen friends over for an epic marathon of THE HOBBIT or another major-hype movie would be a blast and worth the price of admission. Consider, some of us already spend $200 just to screen UFC fights.

Quite honestly, I'd readily plunk down that kind of cash for select pictures. Where this deal fails for me is on the $35,000 hardware front. All of that scratch and you only get 1080p and a lot of DRM hassle? No thanks.

If someone else can figure out the hardware, I'm ok with the 'rental' price.

 

[mark haflich]

The Hardware is where they make their money. The best commercial film server costs what, about $12K and decent ones can be had for $6K. The Sony projectors (commercial) come with a server. I have no problem with the $500 The Hobbit is not in their arsenal yet Personally with other distribution services coming, I think it would be a lot safer to save the $30K and pass. Rent the whole theater for a lot less including ushers and drink servers etc.

 

[Marc Wielage]

Ah! Thanks Marc, that does kinda make sense! You can still get to see the latest movies just as soon as everybody else but you don't have to mix with the hoi poloi.

Exactly. This is for status-seekers, not for high-quality movie buffs. But it'll still be HD, and I think that's enough for a lot of people. $500 is chump change for an evening's entertainment for a certain percentage of society.