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The Ultimate Aerial Camera Platform

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Here's the footage from the awesome new 9.5-18 wide angle zoom from Arri that we shot for NAB a few months ago with Bill Bennett ASC operating the Gyron Horizon in our BO-105LS dual gimbal camera ship. This lens really changes the whole concept of aerial photography. We are now offering this lens to our clients, as we can fly two gimbals at the same time it allows DP to get both the awesome wide and super tight shots on one pass in one take.

Try to watch in 1080 http://youtu.be/KRjH1_e-5qU
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We just shot some amazing air to air footage over the weekend with our rear camera mount shooting directly to the new Prores 4444 XQ codec. Shot by Bill Bennett ASC using the new Gyron Horizon gimbal. The rear camera mount allows us to get angles you rarely see from helicopters. I think the footage will be posted soon from Apple and Arri.
 

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Incorrect!

Incorrect!

The link claims they have the only helicopter in the world that can be fitted with two gimbals.
In fact there are hundreds of helicopters that can be fitted with a side and nose mount or two nose mounts!

The concept was used on Tour de France years ago, using standard mounts.



A common side mount can shoot backwards to a limited degree, a true tail facing camera IS rare, I suggest they focus on advertising that :)

There is an off the shelf rear mount for EC135s, a popular but expensive twin outside the USA.


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Yes, we should have been more clear and said two real gimbals and by real we mean gimbals that stabilize to 10 micro radians or less with a actual cinema camera, like a Epic, Alexa or Sony F55, with a 24-290 or other serious zoom, like the Shot Over, GSS, Eclipse or Gyron Gimbals. We know lots of helicopters can fly multiple lightweight gimbals, we've seen 4 gimbals on one heli, with the little box cameras.

The cool thing with this rear mount is that with a push of a button it can go from being a right or left side mount to a centered or off centered rear mount while staying in CG. If you've ever been on a car commercial with full size heli you will often hear "we ran out of left or right pedal" or "the skid or tail got in the shot" we wanted to have a solid 220 degree FOV for look back applications with out having to fly sideways slowly. And like our front mount the install can be done in less then one minute with no A&P unlike other mounts that can take a whole day to rig and a A&P sign off.

Believe me if we could have bought a "off the shelf" rear camera mount that would work in our environment for our EC135T2 we would have.

Here is some great air to air look back footage of the Red Bull 105 flown by Chuck Aaron we shot the other day with Bill Bennett ASC using the Gyron. Also this is the first footage shot direct to ProRes 4444 XQ. And the first time we've ever uploaded to Vimeo from FCP X directly. It's also the first time we've ever titled a video "Skycore Rear Camera Mount".
https://vimeo.com/100863300

 
Aaron, do you have a website or phone number I can contact you directly with about your services rather than pm you here?
 
That REDBULL pilot is amazing, great chopter too. Too bad the shots weren't in focus... just kidding. Thanks for sharing.


Aaron McLane said:
Yes, we should have been more clear and said two real gimbals and by real we mean gimbals that stabilize to 10 micro radians or less with a actual cinema camera, like a Epic, Alexa or Sony F55, with a 24-290 or other serious zoom, like the Shot Over, GSS, Eclipse or Gyron Gimbals. We know lots of helicopters can fly multiple lightweight gimbals, we've seen 4 gimbals on one heli, with the little box cameras.

The cool thing with this rear mount is that with a push of a button it can go from being a right or left side mount to a centered or off centered rear mount while staying in CG. If you've ever been on a car commercial with full size heli you will often hear "we ran out of left or right pedal" or "the skid or tail got in the shot" we wanted to have a solid 220 degree FOV for look back applications with out having to fly sideways slowly. And like our front mount the install can be done in less then one minute with no A&P unlike other mounts that can take a whole day to rig and a A&P sign off.

Believe me if we could have bought a "off the shelf" rear camera mount that would work in our environment for our EC135T2 we would have.

Here is some great air to air look back footage of the Red Bull 105 flown by Chuck Aaron we shot the other day with Bill Bennett ASC using the Gyron. Also this is the first footage shot direct to ProRes 4444 XQ. And the first time we've ever uploaded to Vimeo from FCP X directly. It's also the first time we've ever titled a video "Skycore Rear Camera Mount".
https://vimeo.com/100863300

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Aaron,

I'd like a LA traffic shot for a recent short film. Any interest?

Aaron McLane said:
Here's the footage from the awesome new 9.5-18 wide angle zoom from Arri that we shot for NAB a few months ago with Bill Bennett ASC operating the Gyron Horizon in our BO-105LS dual gimbal camera ship. This lens really changes the whole concept of aerial photography. We are now offering this lens to our clients, as we can fly two gimbals at the same time it allows DP to get both the awesome wide and super tight shots on one pass in one take.

Try to watch in 1080 http://youtu.be/KRjH1_e-5qU
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Yes, we should have been more clear and said two real gimbals and by real we mean gimbals that stabilize to 10 micro radians or less with a actual cinema camera, like a Epic, Alexa or Sony F55, with a 24-290 or other serious zoom, like the Shot Over, GSS, Eclipse or Gyron Gimbals. We know lots of helicopters can fly multiple lightweight gimbals, we've seen 4 gimbals on one heli, with the little box cameras.
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So a gimbal isnt a "real gimbal" unless it has a particular payload?

Two cineflex Elites (with Epics) can be mounted on nose of AS 350 helicopters.
Real gimbals, real payloads, real helicopters.

BTW, other than payload capacity, what are the differences between EC135 rear step Meeker mount and your rear mount?


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So a gimbal isnt a "real gimbal" unless it has a particular payload?

Two cineflex Elites (with Epics) can be mounted on nose of AS 350 helicopters.
Real gimbals, real payloads, real helicopters.

BTW, other than payload capacity, what are the differences between EC135 rear step Meeker mount and your rear mount?
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Payload is Everything when it comes to a mount, and clearance, you would land on your gimbal if you tried to put a cinema gimbal on the aft Meeker mount which is designed for spot lights, microwave systems and small cameras that work great for law enforcement and ENG television. Gimbals for for the big screen are larger, need to stabilize better and move smoother then the military, police and ENG gimbals.

Yes, I would consider a real CINEMA gimbal something that could carry a CINEMA camera like a Epic, Alexa or Sony F55 with a 24-290 Optimo zoom and stabilize to 10 micro radians or less which is what you need for sub pixel stabilization at 4k.
 
Gimbals for for the big screen are larger,
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Cineflex Elite, GSS 16, Shotover F1 and new Mini Eclipse have designed and are being sold with Epics, Arris and F55s.
They are a fraction of size and weight of previous gimbals such as Spacecam, Wescam and Eclipse.


Yes, I would consider a real CINEMA gimbal something that could carry a CINEMA camera like a Epic, Alexa or Sony F55 with a 24-290 Optimo zoom and stabilize to 10 micro radians or less which is what you need for sub pixel stabilization at 4k.
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You can try and define or invent a Generic industry term based on very narrow parameters and feature set, but because your effort is designed to promote a production service of a particular service provider you will understand my resistance.
Particularly when the claims of being unique in the WORLD to deliver a rearward facing shot from a helicopter are dubious.



You should include the sole lens which is apparently vital for aerial work in your definition of "real cinema gimbal" to avoid confusion.
So the Optimo DP 25-250 (6k Coverage!) or Canon 30-300 do not fit your criteria for aerials?




Neither Cineflex Elite, Shotover F1 nor GSS 16 with a new DP 25-250 or 30-300 won't fit on the rear of the Meeker step mount even with a swan neck? Surely one or two will fit with a shorter zoom?


BTW, biasing the gimbal let or right at a push of a button is a cool feature, can it be done whilst airborn?




mike brennan
 
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