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Alex Sutherland

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I'm coming into the film industry from the perspective of a multimedia journalist, so bare with me if these questions sound elementary.

First of all, I'm assuming the film industry has an equivalent of B&H Photo, which is pretty much the industry standard one-stop-shopping locale for photojournalists and multimedia producers. They don't have any of the higher end cinema equipment (like gear heads), so what's a good resource for finding cinema gear?

That was sort of unrelated to my audio questions, which are as follows:

What's a standard recording unit that a production sound engineer or boom operator would carry? Tascam and Nagra are the two that I found in my research, but I failed to see why they're a significantly better choice than a Marantz 671, which is what most of my friends at NPR carry. Is it a matter of syncing with the camera? The Nagra has a sync input I think, but the Tascam and Marantz do not. How important is that? Seems like you could line up audio cues without it.

Some of the Nagras look like they still record on tape. What the heck? Why wouldn't anyone this day and age use something that records digitally onto flash media? Is there something I'm missing? I expect to hear something similar to what I hear when I ask old-timers why they still play LPs instead of buying a CD or MP3 player -- in other words, nothing real convincing.

Finally, the last question I can think of presently is to beg someone on here to explain why recording off camera is superior to coupling the audio with the video. For instance, one could use a wireless transmitter to send audio from a sound mixer (like the Marantz) carried by the boom operator, then have it record the audio straight onto the video file. This would save you the post-sync trouble, so what is the benefit of doing it off camera that is so compelling that it warrants the extra time in post?

Thanks
 
The Marantz 671 is not suitable for double-system movie production. To shoot proper audio with a camera like the RED you need in/out timecode to assure proper audio/video sync. I would recommend:

http://www.sounddevices.com/products/744t.htm

And you're right- few (if any) motion pictures are recording audio to Nagra tape decks anymore. They are using Devas, Sound Devices, AATON Cantars and Nagra digital audio recorders.

As to why record audio seperately- in the 35mm film world you have no choice because 35mm cameras do not record sound. In the high end digital world most pro sound recordists simply record double-system because that's what they're good at and accustomed to doing. Also, professional digital audio recorders typically have better sound quality than most HD or higher digital cameras offer on-board.

-Noah
 
The Marantz 671 is not suitable for double-system movie production. To shoot proper audio with a camera like the RED you need in/out timecode to assure proper audio/video sync. I would recommend:

http://www.sounddevices.com/products/744t.htm

And you're right- few (if any) motion pictures are recording audio to Nagra tape decks anymore. They are using Devas, Sound Devices, AATON Cantars and Nagra digital audio recorders.

As to why record audio seperately- in the 35mm film world you have no choice because 35mm cameras do not record sound. In the high end digital world most pro sound recordists simply record double-system because that's what they're good at and accustomed to doing. Also, professional digital audio recorders typically have better sound quality than most HD or higher digital cameras offer on-board.

-Noah

How does one go about syncing the timecode wirelessly? Is there a transceiver setup that one would buy?

Would something like this be adequate?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=405341&Q=&is=REG&A=details

It appears to have a timecode input and clock input.
 
Many RED users do record direct to the camera, just depends on what your need is. Some are using mixers like the SD 442, 302, MM1 and such to get their levels right, feed line levels into the camera and shoot. Some are recording directly from the mic to the camera with no mixer and finally, some shoot using a double system as previously mentioned. Horses for courses.
 
You can send TC over a wireless link like the ComTek or Lectrosonics... You would need some custom cables though. My experience has been to use a smart slate like the Denecke TS-C which is Jam synced out of a SD 702T or 788T-SSD recorder via a LEMO-LEMO cable. You can also jam sync the RED from the SD recorders with the same cable - RED.com offers a 10' LEMO - LEMO TC cable.

I generally run TOD or Free Run TC.

The nice thing about using a smart slate is that it can speed up your Log & Capture workflow.
 
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