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Shot on Scarlet w/ RPPs

I'm sorry to sound negative, but whats the point of shooting something like this with a scarlet? Front lighting, party atmosphere, eating tons of data, and not utilizing the cameras strengths, wouldn't a standard video camera be much more usable in this situation. I see nothing in these shots that couldn't be done the same or better with a DSLR, or another type of camera setup. Super overkill for not much payback in the look for my opinion. Right tools for the job I say, I think this could have been done better with the right tools. Also about 85% of the footage subjects are out of focus, I know its sort of a style of these, but its very distracting honestly and looks just like you couldn't grab focus correctly.
 
Ouch, I liked it! (Plus it has mad hits!) I was impressed with how bright it looked knowing that RPP are fast, but certainly not the fastest on the market. I have done a lot of club shoots myself (see grand below on my reel for instance) and I was impressed with the fact it was exposed properly, its damn hard to run and gun in a busy club with the lights off and avoid noise and under exposure. So overall I thought very interesting the lack of noise, and the fact I could see things on lenses that aren't particularly fast to begin with. What was the T stop? (I'm watching it on my smaller monitor which makes everything look less noisey tho so I cant really be certain if theres a little)

PS I am interested in trying the CP2 Super Speeds or Rokinon 1.5s in clubs myself (or Leica Nocilux if I ever get some money together after my brain upgrades). RPP are awesome don't get me wrong, but I think more speed might help me cuz I've done clubs on 2.8 and I had to boost the $hit outta it in post
 
I have to agree with Joesef on this one - it does seem like kind of a waste (and I can't imagine it was at all fun lugging around a Scarlet-X with RPPs) for a nightlife shoot.

I think, however, that you can pull off using a camera of this caliber AND film nightlife stuff, but not with that type of lighting or shot setup in general. This reminded me too much of those "Girls Gone Wild" ads you'd see on Comedy Central late at night, as well as most recap videos for bar events.

Make the shots sexy, artistic, and well-composed. After all, you have a setup that's over $15k; might as well get the most out of it.

Joesef o. said:
I'm sorry to sound negative, but whats the point of shooting something like this with a scarlet? Front lighting, party atmosphere, eating tons of data, and not utilizing the cameras strengths, wouldn't a standard video camera be much more usable in this situation. I see nothing in these shots that couldn't be done the same or better with a DSLR, or another type of camera setup. Super overkill for not much payback in the look for my opinion. Right tools for the job I say, I think this could have been done better with the right tools. Also about 85% of the footage subjects are out of focus, I know its sort of a style of these, but its very distracting honestly and looks just like you couldn't grab focus correctly.
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Brian Merlen said:
So overall I thought very interesting the lack of noise, and the fact I could see things on lenses that aren't particularly fast to begin with. What was the T stop?
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Why would you think RRP's are slow?? they are T1.8.
 
I like it.

If I was hired to do that project and I owned a Scarlet, why would I think of using something else?
 
Joesef o. said:
Why would you think RRP's are slow?? they are T1.8.
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Which is fast, unless you think of 1.5s, 1.3s or .95s...

Speed is sort of a relative term. I am a huge red fan boy, but I do a lot of shooting tests on low/no budget so for me I think the faster the better since I haven't yet seen what Dragon can do I still think the faster I can get the better just in case I ever do need to see in the dark. Every club I go to no matter what camera I have used so far kind of sucked lol.... When all you got is strobes, weird LEDs, and drunk people who don't look good when blinded by an on board LED, your fairly limited in these run and gun situations.

So given the situation I thought it was what its supposed to be. Its not a Victoria Secret spot, its a live crowd and how many foot candles you really get from dj light kits ya know and an on board LED?

Maybe some slowmo here and there could of added to it, or more steady shots, like a monopod, shoulder mount, etc? but i still like it
 
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Joesef o. said:
I'm sorry to sound negative, but whats the point of shooting something like this with a scarlet? Front lighting, party atmosphere, eating tons of data, and not utilizing the cameras strengths, wouldn't a standard video camera be much more usable in this situation. I see nothing in these shots that couldn't be done the same or better with a DSLR, or another type of camera setup. Super overkill for not much payback in the look for my opinion. Right tools for the job I say, I think this could have been done better with the right tools. Also about 85% of the footage subjects are out of focus, I know its sort of a style of these, but its very distracting honestly and looks just like you couldn't grab focus correctly.
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Word of advice: You aren't doing a "better job" if you don't give the clients what they want. If they say they want shakey-cam but instead you give them the most gorgeous slider shot in the world, you're doing a bad job. If they say they want Red, you give them Red. It's also very important not to crap on someone's stylistic choices because it's not how you would have done it. Humility is priceless
 
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