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Resolve 18.6 Color Management / Mac

Roberto Franco

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Hi guys, at the moment this are my settings for Rec709 delivery on a Mac.

Screenshot 2024-03-14 at 10.26.33.png

Main concern here is: black on edit will look the same black as exported?

Any better settings? I would love you guys advice! I'm opened to have Resolve Color Managed if it's better!

Thank you!!
 
What’s happening to the blacks upon export?
 
Hi Jon,

It's a mess, don't know who to trust :LOL:

I'm happy with the results of the color page, just would like to know what is the best settings to export on this kind of scenario.

Thank you!

black levels.jpg
 
If your project allows for it, I'd set up Resolve to use Resolve Color Management. I often set 'Color processing mode' to HDR, even if I 'output color space' is SDR.

Assign appropriate 'Input color space'.

Under DaVinci settings (not project settings), under General, check the box for 'use Mac display color profiles for viewers'. I also check the "gamma fix box" 'automatically tag Rec.709 scene clips as Rec.709-A'. This box has been added to combat the well-documented gamma shift issue due to missing/inconsistent video color tag handling across platforms and video players.

I will say that your images above comparing Resolve to Quicktime—it's certainly not the worst I have seen....

IINA tends to remember tweaks to the video settings between launches. Have you played with contrast/gamma in the app, or is it zeroed out?
 
No matter what you do, I don’t believe QuickTime, IINA player and IG will ever all look identical to each other or to the Resolve viewer.
 
If your project allows for it, I'd set up Resolve to use Resolve Color Management. I often set 'Color processing mode' to HDR, even if I 'output color space' is SDR.

Assign appropriate 'Input color space'.

Under DaVinci settings (not project settings), under General, check the box for 'use Mac display color profiles for viewers'. I also check the "gamma fix box" 'automatically tag Rec.709 scene clips as Rec.709-A'. This box has been added to combat the well-documented gamma shift issue due to missing/inconsistent video color tag handling across platforms and video players.

I will say that your images above comparing Resolve to Quicktime—it's certainly not the worst I have seen....

IINA tends to remember tweaks to the video settings between launches. Have you played with contrast/gamma in the app, or is it zeroed out?
Thank you very much for the insight! I'll give it a go and report back asap :)
 
No matter what you do, I don’t believe QuickTime, IINA player and IG will ever all look identical to each other or to the Resolve viewer.
I know, but if the color page and QuickTime looks 99% I'll be happy, added all just for reference. Thank you.
 
Read these:

"Grading for Mixed Delivery: Cinema, Home, and Every Screen in Between" by Cullen Kelly

and

"How to Deal with Levels: Full vs. Video"
by Dan Swierenga

and I think both cover the issues and the solutions very well. This video also covers it:


Understanding color management is also helpful:

"Color Management for Video Editors"
https://jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-video-editing/colour-management-for-video-editors/

The above articles will explain why things change on different displays, different playback engines, and the importance of calibration and color-managed outputs.

I generally try to export a second or two of SMPTE Bars at the head of the project, and I import the file back into Resolve to check it on scopes to verify all the levels are correct. Using calibrated displays is a must -- without that, you have no idea what you're looking at. We also accept that the basic picture is going to change a little bit on different devices, because that's life.
 
Read these:

"Grading for Mixed Delivery: Cinema, Home, and Every Screen in Between" by Cullen Kelly

and

"How to Deal with Levels: Full vs. Video"
by Dan Swierenga

and I think both cover the issues and the solutions very well. This video also covers it:


Understanding color management is also helpful:

"Color Management for Video Editors"
https://jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-video-editing/colour-management-for-video-editors/

The above articles will explain why things change on different displays, different playback engines, and the importance of calibration and color-managed outputs.

I generally try to export a second or two of SMPTE Bars at the head of the project, and I import the file back into Resolve to check it on scopes to verify all the levels are correct. Using calibrated displays is a must -- without that, you have no idea what you're looking at. We also accept that the basic picture is going to change a little bit on different devices, because that's life.
I'll definitely will have a look in all the references. Thank you!
 
Also I have given up on Resolve looking good, it is user error, however on Premiere I never had this issue.

All I want is the footage to look like it does in RedcineX.

Why I need CST, nodes... ? I do the "RAW colorspace options" in preferences, set them to IPP2 etc, but still doesn't look anywhere near as good as red cine.
Are you referring to color or general overall image quality? Assuming you have things set for full debayer in Resolve, there's also a preference setting for playback performance that can affect the clarity of the image during playback. you can set this to off to play image with no optimization. Then on export make sure that it's set to highest quality debayer and scaling in the deliver page
 
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