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foolcat / foolmeta - R3D catalogs and metadatas ingest

Mikael Lubtchansky

Mikael Lubtchansky

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Download the latest version from the website : http://foolcolor.net/foolcat

works as a demo version with 5 clips or as a full version / free upgrade for those with a license




Edits :

see this post for infos on the latest version, including support for QT movie clips

and this one about Dragon and MXF support

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http://vimeo.com/foolcolor/foolcat
(old video showing only R3D features, not updated to show QT support or latest additions yet)



- foolcat lets you create rich HTML and pdf catalog of R3D clips with image thumbnails and extensive metadata / RMD informations (supports RED One, EPIC and Scarlet)

foolcat works with up to 5 clips per catalog in demo mode

A LOT of metadatas are displayed in a compact space in the HTML catalogs (including HDRx values, camera firmware, color curves, alchemy settings, linked audio info etc)...

You can check a demo catalog, here :
http://foolcolor.net/foolcat/foolcat_example/index.html


companion app foolmeta is being re-coded at the moment so is no longer included in foolcat 2.0... but you can use the old version from foolcat 1.26 :
foolcat_1.26

- foolmeta lets you add custom user metadatas (Project, Scene, Shot, Take, Notes, Rating, Color Label, Circled take etc) into RMD sidecar files, and is 100% compatible with REDCINE-X metadatas. You can add them in batch to a whole folder and also on a clip by clip basis.

sneak peak at the future (no ETA) :
http://vimeo.com/foolcolor/metabox

Mikael
 
POssibly the most important add on I have seen released.

Excellent. I just bought it. PLease say that you will continue to support it.

David
 
I tried it. I liked it. I paid for it.
Fine tool, will be a big help in keeping my clips organized. Good to know RC3 will come quickly. Nice work, Mikael.
 
Thanks. I'm writing a small documentation now altho everything is pretty straightforward... hope to post it later today or tomorrow... else it'll wait a few more hours as I'm flying tomorrow evening for a shoot in southern India.

I wrote this app as I was looking for a way of doing catalogs myself with EPIC footage... it took a bit of time to make it right while trying to pack as much info as possible without being too cluttered... The app is smart enough to only show non default metadatas (i.e. in camera look / saturation change will not be displayed if at default 1.0 value) and same for RMD values, if WB or ISO it unchanged from camera setting it won't be displayed... make sure you roll over everywhere in the HTML catalog as it shows lots of info on the small icons, on the 1st thumbnail (non graded clip) or over HDR, timecode, clip name etc

I haven't included all the possible User Metadatas yet (like Owner, Copyright, Edit, Post Notes, filter etc) but this can be added quite easily if needed. The only things I haven't tested yet is Stereo3D clips metadata and anamorphic. If someone can send me a 1 frame R3D + RMD of such files I'd be glad to add whatever is necessary. Once DSMC get a real photo mode I'll add a mode to make catalog of stills with thumbnails... right now it will only display frame number for each still / marker whenever some were tagged in RCX.

Mikael
 
v 1.0 released

fixes a few bugs with specific RMDs and system config... and an issue with the main window being hidden behind others... thanks to Nick Shaw for reporting those !
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
v 1.0 released

fixes a few bugs with specific RMDs and system config... and an issue with the main window being hidden behind others... thanks to Nick Shaw for reporting those !
Click to expand...

Just installed this version. Doesn't work on my Mac Pro at all on Lion 10.7.2. Ideas?
 
Hi and sorry for the bug...
Just as a test can you do this :
Go into your system preferences
Then into 'langage and text' then under the format tabs...
If you set it to 'United States' and try foolcat, does it work ?

Thanks for your help and sorry for the issue... I'll try to fix it tonight and issue a newer version. I think this bug is related to the way your machine separates the numbers fro the decimals. Thoight I fixed
It but looks like some issue remain !
 
Hi Mikael. Works fine now. Is there a way to generate the catalogue with clips in order of time. Often, when shooting on Red One, I bounce back and forth between drives without formatting for an extra safety copy. On Clipfinder, I simply order the clips according to time before generating the catalogue.
 
Hi, Russ, nice to hear it works now, I found the bug and fixing it now...

Yes right now the catalog is only created using file name sort but I'll look and see how I can add the option to have it sorted by shoot time...
 
This is exactly what I've been waiting for! Great work!
 
version 1.04 will now sort catalog using clip shot date and time by default...
thanks Russell for suggesting this, it makes sense to do it like that anyhow instead of using clip's name :)
 
Congrats Mikael, now works like a charm in non US systems. Like Hans and Clipfinder you are in the very best app ever!!

Thanks Men!
 
Hi Mikael

Thanks for making this application! Bought it to support it's development.

Just tried using Foolcat for the first time (v1.04) on 10x128GB cards of mostly 5KWS Redcode 8:1, 75fps varispeed, 25fps timebase Epic footage.
Late 2008 non-unibody 17" MacBook Pro running Snow Leopard 10.6.8

Redline up to date with current "Release" Redcine-X v506.

First time I tried, there was a corrupt clip, so as I was trying to change user metadata clip by clip, it bombed out with a divide by zero error.
Renaming that corrupt clip so it wasn't recognised as a .R3D file allowed the editing of metadata to proceed and the jpg generation to complete.

Unfortunately, while it made all the jpgs fine, it stalled at "create HTML" - I left it running a good twenty minutes, and it didn't complete.
Quitting Foolcat worked, but left the ::: foolcat ::: create HTML progress bar running on top of all windows, and I could not get rid of it except by restarting the computer.

The "Images" folder and graphics were also generated, but no sign of the HTML catalogue.

I had selected the offset beginning and end, but may have had very short takes which were no more than a few seconds long.

I don't see an option to select sort by a particular metadata field.

I do see the potential of this program. However, I miss certain things about Clipfinder.

1) The Excel spreadsheet layout of Clipfinder with editable fields allow me to see an overview of all my metadata ( with selectable columns ) at a glance.
2) I believe I could sort by any metadata field
3) It was easy to add notes to a clip - at the moment with Foolcat, I have to keep pressing a forward button to get to a clip possibly hundreds or more down the list. If we can't have a spreadsheet layout, maybe a thumbnail browser, or file list table to select. Or at least a backward button as well as a forward selection button. And prioritise navigation ahead of generating a thumbnail - would speed things up.
4) I could save a job and use all the recurring personal and production company data as an editable template for a future job.
 
Hi Eric and thanks for your support.

- I'll try to see if I can detect corrupt clips better. Divide by zero means maybe it had a zero duration or framerate that caused an error later on.
- if you force quit the app you can get rid of the progress bar by simply relaunching the app
- no problem using offset on short clips, if it cannot get the offset it will do as much as it can.
- it will by default sort by shot time/date
- No preset yet but all entered meta is available in recent items list... So you can just type the first letters and it will auto complete or select one recent item from the list...

Did you try with a shorter list of clips to see if that work before trying again with very large library again ?
I did tests with 200-300 clips here on a macbook air, took a bit of time but nothing like 20 mins... I'll do more tests with hundreds of clips and let you know...
All your suggestions are valid and I will look into it. I started foolcat with the intention of making simple catalogs and then added the metadatas ingest option. REDCINE-X can also display those metadatas with columns etc... The frontier is fine between making a simple catalog tool and recreating a full REDCINE X / Storm like app...

Will see what I can add in next few version as to make it easier / faster for large libraries. Just received my RED Software Development Kit so give me a bit of time to see how I can start using that instead of REDLine for my future apps / updates
 
Hi Mikael

It's great to have you on here. And appreciate you don't want to recreate other tools.

I haven't had a chance to retry with fewer clips as all the media has gone with the production.
I'll see if I can find some other footage to try it with.

I did try the first day of the shoot with 6x128GB cards and that failed the same way.

It may not be that large a number of clips, as most of our clips were long takes at 75fps. Maybe it's the number of chunks of each R3D clip?
 
No the number of chunks should have no impact

I'll try to see if I can reproduce the issue on a snow leo .8 / REDCine X non pro 506 release combo...

Let me know if you can try with other clips see if you get the same problem but I think there must be some sort of software conflict on your config... Feel free to contact me directly by email so we can work it out when you have the time... I can send you 1 frame R3Ds to test and try other various things
 
FYI I just finished rewriting this app from scratch in Xcode (was just a simple applescript before) using the RED SDK.

It is MUCH faster now and should be more stable / reliable as a general app. It also has been updated to properly recognize and list the latest RED formats (1K, 3KHD etc) but basically produces the exact same cool catalogs.

I will release the app in the next few days, as a free upgrade for all previous users.

foolmeta is being rewritten too and will be released a bit later as a separate app with a much better interface to review and annotate clips.

If some of the registered users wants to access the new app before it is released to help testing it please email me directly.

Thanks
 
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