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new 15"-17" macbook pro's

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iam a bit disapointed. price increase and still no blu-ray? no expresscard slot on the 15"?

it realy seems that apple doesn't care about the "pro" costumer range anymore.

what do you guys think ?
 
The lack of USB 3.0 makes the new Black Magic Design Intensity Shuttle a no go.

Foregoing mobile HD capture is a major bummer.

A general lack of I/O makes it a tough call for mobile professional use without stepping up to the massive 17" which detracts from the mobility factor.
 
I think it's pretty good for such a quiet update, 17inch is mobile enough for serious film work I think.
Faster computers with longer battery bigger HDD and they also updated the 13inch macbook pros as well.
 
The processor upgrade and battery life is nice but...

Price increase (cheapest 15" is now 200 euros more expensive in Belgium), and now you have to pay 135 euros extra just to have a matte display (so you have to pay 2000 euros just to have an Apple laptop with a matte display).

Still not an Expresscard slot in the 15".

Only one firewire800 port, even in the 17", which is just plain un-acceptable.
For laptops labelling themselves as 'PRO' they fall short... They have enough power, but what can you do with that power if you can't even connect a damn RAID with eSata?
 
It's not as great a processor upgrade after first glance.

They are using Dual Core core I7 chips.

Not Quad Core chips...
 
Todd T said:
It's not as great a processor upgrade after first glance.

They are using Dual Core core I7 chips.

Not Quad Core chips...
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where did you find this information ?
i cant find them on the apple page
 
I was fooling myself (or rather, hoping)! In a fool's defense, they've ditched FW at times and brought it back to lower-end laptops, so I thought maybe they'd come to their senses.

Would have been great to see USB3, though...
 
If you're a video professional (probably less than 5% of Apple's huge market) you'll buy the 17" anyway. It's not much bigger and heavier really, the prices have fallen a LOT, and it has a full HD screen.

Many more people will use the SD slot than the express card, especially at 15" sizes.

And as far as there being complaints about one FW800 socket, what difference does that make? There's only one bus, and you can daisy chain devices.

Old notions of and overpriced 'riot shield' are usually inaccurate today. The 17 gives you a lot for the money, and it usually makes people look twice before they realize it's the big one.

I would have liked USB 3 though, having seen the new blackmagic gear. I wonder if they were expecting it to be on the new laptops. I know I wasn't....
 
Ben Holmes said:
If you're a video professional (probably less than 5% of Apple's huge market) you'll buy the 17" anyway.
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Not necessarily...maybe if it's your only computer and you use it for editing.

I owned a 17" Powerbook back when that was the case for me, and though it does pack a lot into one contained unit, there were many times when I felt the size/weight was a bit more than what I wanted (for reasons of portability/travel). Ideally, I would rather have a smaller MBP and use it in tandem with a second monitor for the bulk of my work requiring more screen real estate, while allowing me to be a little more limber when I'm on the road and using it for reading/writing/internet/whatever else...

No matter what anyone says about the bulk of users finding SD more convenient, I wish Apple would at least allow people to build custom setups that were a little more worthy of the "pro" moniker. They've simply cut down on the line's versatility...
 
A. Clint Litton said:
Not necessarily...maybe if it's your only computer and you use it for editing.

I owned a 17" Powerbook back when that was the case for me, and though it does pack a lot into one contained unit, there were many times when I felt the size/weight was a bit more than what I wanted (for reasons of portability/travel). Ideally, I would rather have a smaller MBP and use it in tandem with a second monitor for the bulk of my work requiring more screen real estate, while allowing me to be a little more limber when I'm on the road and using it for reading/writing/internet/whatever else...

No matter what anyone says about the bulk of users finding SD more convenient, I wish Apple would at least allow people to build custom setups that were a little more worthy of the "pro" moniker. They've simply cut down on the line's versatility...
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I totally agree with you! Especially regarding custom setups. I would spend more money just to be able to do that.

If you are doing a light weight shoot in some far off country, and carrying everything on your back then it makes a lot of difference being able to have a small MBP. Currently I have the 13inch (despite the limitations) because it is so handy, and its compactness brings a smile to my face, in the way the 17" never did!

Now if I could have some of the 17" features in the 13" I would pay for it! The size of the screen is not the important thing for DIT on a small shoot, as you are not using it as an edit station. It can't of course replace a macpro, which I also use for bigger shoots, and editing.
 
anyone else have thoughts about the new 17"? I'm considering buying one in the next few weeks.
 
I've been playing with USB3 a lot lately... It sucks. I hope it dies. Apple is right to not include it in their products.

That said... I'm still pissed that Apple removed the ExpressCard slot from the 15" MBP -- WTF???

And Why can't they give us better connectivity, especially an eSATA port or two, on an iMac??? Gotta hack the stupid thing to connect a somewhat acceptable storage solution.
 
Terrible latency. Can't mix and match certain types of devices. Legacy devices slow the bus to USB2 speed. The only reason for USB3 data rates are for storage and media applications, which is already served by plenty of other standards like SATA. eSATA is faster and more robust, super cheap to implement and already exists in abundance.
 
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