Todd Anderson
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Hey Reduser members (yes, I am one, too)
If you could put aside the differences between the two camps (film /digital what have you) for a few moments, "black and white film" enthusiast could use your help. And seeing how this is really a kind of passionate / low budget underdog medium, I think there is much similarities to some Red users.
As you may or may not be aware, Kodak this month has quietly decided to discontinue their black and white motion film stock, the historic Plus-X (5231 / 7231). This is pretty huge for this camp, including myself. For the time being, they are keeping the faster stock, but that is like saying they are keeping just the M sensor of the RED and getting rid of the new MX. The tonality and look and feel of the two stocks are night and day. For many, "true" black and white is going to die. If I could have my way in the future for two "looks" to be around, it would be classic black and white film and contemporary digital color, similar to Red's offering. There is nice range and contrast between the two looks. Both with their own respective merits. Anyhow...
Respectfully asking to spread the word far and wide. If so desired, add your name to the petition over at cinematography.com.
http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=45417&st=0&gopid=320532&#entry320532
http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=45389
Also, perhaps just as important (as stated below), if anyone has friends in the press, or contacts in the film and/or entertainment industry that may be of value to add some weight to the campaign, or can relay the artistic significance and the historical importance of the discontinuation of the medium, by all means share the word.
And please refrain from throwing too many tomatoes in the from of the tired film / digital debate. Yes, it is open target and hard to resist. But this is about the disappearance of another tool in the artist's pallet. And seriously, it would be great for some help. The collective here is pretty vast. And I know there are some friends of industry and press people that frequent these boards.
Jim, if you know of any guerilla tactics .... feel free to PM me. I'm all ears.
A protest of some sort that is a step above looking like a couple of tree huggers, but below a bunch of people throwing Molotov cocktails, would be a good start. But clearly open to suggestions, volunteers and ideas to generate some media/press to get the word strongly up to Kodak.
A respectful thank you.
Todd
This is a copy of a post I placed over at cinematography.com:
"As stated in another thread, we are looking at trying to organize a protest of some sort in front of the Kodak Hollywood facility (and perhaps concurrently or separately at the NY facility should be a goal, too) in a few weeks. I guess timing is probably important, so if it takes more time to generate enough interest for the event, then all the better.
I guess if everyone (pros, filmmakers, amateurs, artists, educators, students and industry people) could start spreading via word of mouth, e-mail, blogging, student boards, etc., to colleagues, friends, and the such, the awareness of the the discontinuation of the Plus-X (or simply stated as B&W motion film if the point is better understood), and encourage them to send off an e-mail to Bill to add to the petition, that sounds like a positive first step. As word starts to spread, perhaps we could set a date for a physical protest.
Perhaps just as important, as previously stated, if anyone has friends in the press, or contacts in the film and/or entertainment industry that may be of value to add some weight to the campaign, or can relay the artistic significance and the historical importance of the discontinuation of the medium, by all means share.
There are obviously many filmmakers, artists and even just film lovers for that matter, some probably very influential and important, both in the U.S. and abroad in Europe, that are probably not aware of the matter in the least. And just as the readers of this board, they will no doubt be emotionally effected by the decision before it is too late. So I guess getting that awareness out there is pretty important. Use your contacts.
The way I see it, in essence, black and white motion stock (sorry, just 5222/ 7222 doesn't cut it) and the huge legacy attached to it is being discontinued by a low profile quarterly notice as if it is just a lot of a particular line of paper towels.
-T"
If you could put aside the differences between the two camps (film /digital what have you) for a few moments, "black and white film" enthusiast could use your help. And seeing how this is really a kind of passionate / low budget underdog medium, I think there is much similarities to some Red users.
As you may or may not be aware, Kodak this month has quietly decided to discontinue their black and white motion film stock, the historic Plus-X (5231 / 7231). This is pretty huge for this camp, including myself. For the time being, they are keeping the faster stock, but that is like saying they are keeping just the M sensor of the RED and getting rid of the new MX. The tonality and look and feel of the two stocks are night and day. For many, "true" black and white is going to die. If I could have my way in the future for two "looks" to be around, it would be classic black and white film and contemporary digital color, similar to Red's offering. There is nice range and contrast between the two looks. Both with their own respective merits. Anyhow...
Respectfully asking to spread the word far and wide. If so desired, add your name to the petition over at cinematography.com.
http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=45417&st=0&gopid=320532&#entry320532
http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=45389
Also, perhaps just as important (as stated below), if anyone has friends in the press, or contacts in the film and/or entertainment industry that may be of value to add some weight to the campaign, or can relay the artistic significance and the historical importance of the discontinuation of the medium, by all means share the word.
And please refrain from throwing too many tomatoes in the from of the tired film / digital debate. Yes, it is open target and hard to resist. But this is about the disappearance of another tool in the artist's pallet. And seriously, it would be great for some help. The collective here is pretty vast. And I know there are some friends of industry and press people that frequent these boards.
Jim, if you know of any guerilla tactics .... feel free to PM me. I'm all ears.
A protest of some sort that is a step above looking like a couple of tree huggers, but below a bunch of people throwing Molotov cocktails, would be a good start. But clearly open to suggestions, volunteers and ideas to generate some media/press to get the word strongly up to Kodak.
A respectful thank you.
Todd
This is a copy of a post I placed over at cinematography.com:
"As stated in another thread, we are looking at trying to organize a protest of some sort in front of the Kodak Hollywood facility (and perhaps concurrently or separately at the NY facility should be a goal, too) in a few weeks. I guess timing is probably important, so if it takes more time to generate enough interest for the event, then all the better.
I guess if everyone (pros, filmmakers, amateurs, artists, educators, students and industry people) could start spreading via word of mouth, e-mail, blogging, student boards, etc., to colleagues, friends, and the such, the awareness of the the discontinuation of the Plus-X (or simply stated as B&W motion film if the point is better understood), and encourage them to send off an e-mail to Bill to add to the petition, that sounds like a positive first step. As word starts to spread, perhaps we could set a date for a physical protest.
Perhaps just as important, as previously stated, if anyone has friends in the press, or contacts in the film and/or entertainment industry that may be of value to add some weight to the campaign, or can relay the artistic significance and the historical importance of the discontinuation of the medium, by all means share.
There are obviously many filmmakers, artists and even just film lovers for that matter, some probably very influential and important, both in the U.S. and abroad in Europe, that are probably not aware of the matter in the least. And just as the readers of this board, they will no doubt be emotionally effected by the decision before it is too late. So I guess getting that awareness out there is pretty important. Use your contacts.
The way I see it, in essence, black and white motion stock (sorry, just 5222/ 7222 doesn't cut it) and the huge legacy attached to it is being discontinued by a low profile quarterly notice as if it is just a lot of a particular line of paper towels.
-T"
