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My first set if primes. Would these be a good buy?

my experience

my experience

chuck colburn said:
Morning Jacek,

Have you had any of the RED primes apart? Are there multi floating elements and such? I ask because of your statement that an overhaul could cost as much as the lens itself.
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Morning Chuck,
No I didn't have RPPs apart. Since I've been taking lenses apart for 25years I'm rarely wrong anymore...:001_tt2:
But, just in case I put the word "could" there
 
I've been into the RED primes. And every other RED lens for that matter.
The RED primes were clearly designed with serviceability in mind.
General maintenance should be fairly standard. No more difficult than a set of S4s or Ultra Primes, if not easier. And even in the case of severe damage, with RED's cooperation, parts should be relatively cheap.
 
c'mon Matt

c'mon Matt

Matthew Duclos said:
They run on hoofs of unicorns. ...Magical.
I probably shouldn't divulge too much info. Trying to stay off of RED's shit list.:banned:
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It's helix- I don't have to take lenses apart to know that...
Matt your teasing is disarming...
 
OptiTek said:
Matt your teasing is disarming...
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haha. Teasing would be a poor mans technique in a game of experience.
However, I lack the luxury of teasing as I've already exhausted the limits.
I played with the fire, don't wanna get burnt.

Anyways.. Back on topic.
The RPP are an excellent choice for professional cine primes.
 
Well my fellow optical/mechanical techs. (i'm retired after 30 years) this was fun. I have no plans on opening up any RPP's I was just interested.
thanks
 
RPP EOS progress report

RPP EOS progress report

Matthew Duclos said:
Even more so with the addition of your versatile Canon mount.
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You're too kind Matt:smilewinkgrin:
The support should be ready today so I'll have the whole set now.
I also started on the "PL RPPs on Canon" version system concurrently. Aiming at NAB with the latter- maybe sooner..
 
Mitch Gross said:
There's also the option of the Zeiss Compact Primes. These are excellent glass that weigh a lot less than all the other options, plus they are the only PL prime set that cover Full Frame 35, making them future proof.
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Don't forget about the few Canon K-35 PL mount sets that float around. Full Frame coverage and much faster.
 
George A. said:
Don't forget about the few Canon K-35 PL mount sets that float around. Full Frame coverage and much faster.
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I wouldn't call a half-stop "much" faster. It's a half stop.

Edit: Oh wait, you meant than the Zeiss compact primes. I had thought you meant than the RPP's. I take it all back.
 
I haven't had the opportunity to use the RPP's yet. I have used super speeds and put them up against Cookes in a test so the DP could pick which lenses he wanted to use. The test in my opinion showed that super speeds when open all the way totally fall apart. I have never shot with those lenses wide open. It's amazing how they fall apart wide open. Other then that, The super speeds have a pronounced vignette and and pleasing edge softness. The cookes were razor sharp. I think that in combination with the Red the super speeds create a nice painterly look. Just don't open them wide open :). Before you buy them send them to Duclos to have them look at them. I've heard horror stories of guys getting lenses cheap and then spending tons of money fixing them.
 
I just read this post a little more closely. I would pass on lenses for 16mm. if you have $20k for lenses I bet you could find a nice set of 4 in 25, 50, 75, and 100mm then fill in as you get more money from rentals
 
chuck colburn said:
Morning Jon,

A couple of other options.... On ebay right now is an Angenieux 17-102 T2.9 for 14k This would cover the majority of 2-4k rez jobs. There is also an Angenieux 16-44 1.1 that will probally go for around 2k. That lens or one of the 9.5-57mm T1.9 (try to find one of the later ones with the spiffy multi coating) would cover a lot of range for 2k rez shoots. Of course you could use the big Angy for lower rez work also. This would leave you with some change left over for a used follow focus and mayby a matte box too.
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Will the Angenieux 9.5-57mm fully cover the 2/3 in 2k? How about the 3k? Also, what is the crop factor for 2/3 on 16mm glass? I've seen different numbers floating around. Assuming that you still won't get a great wideshot with this lens due to the crop factor, would a good option be to supplement with a 6mm or 8mm Red mini prime? I believe that I read that the 2/3 would come with a standard PL mount, which means the Angenieux would work. Do the mini primes have a special mini mount? Would it be a pain to switch mounts when I needed to use the mini primes?

Sorry if I am way off on my questions. I'm relatively new at this and looking for guidance. I read these forums ALOT and and overwhelmed and sometimes confused at the all the info.:shocked:

Thanks!

Brian
 
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