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4k looks soft in fcp

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Craig Schober

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so i just finished grading a 4k 16:9 feature in color and have sent it back to fcp where it looks soft to me. even though i did export out of color as 10-bit, 1080p, prores 4:4:4, it looks much softer than the 2k proxy looked in both fcp and color. could the small difference between 2k and 1080p be the reason? or am i setting the render options in fcp improperly. i've tried video processing rendering in rgb, 8 bit and 10 bit. they all take many hours and all look equally soft. or maybe it just plays that way on my mac pro (2.8 ghz, 8 core but previous generation) in the timeline until i export the whole thing as a quicktime mov?

not at my computer at the moment but i can post examples later. in the meantime, is there anything obvious that i am missing or something i should avoid?

thanks
 
Craig Schober said:
so i just finished grading a 4k 16:9 feature in color and have sent it back to fcp where it looks soft to me. even though i did export out of color as 10-bit, 1080p, prores 4:4:4, it looks much softer than the 2k proxy looked in both fcp and color. could the small difference between 2k and 1080p be the reason? or am i setting the render options in fcp improperly. i've tried video processing rendering in rgb, 8 bit and 10 bit. they all take many hours and all look equally soft. or maybe it just plays that way on my mac pro (2.8 ghz, 8 core but previous generation) in the timeline until i export the whole thing as a quicktime mov?

not at my computer at the moment but i can post examples later. in the meantime, is there anything obvious that i am missing or something i should avoid?

thanks
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Did you check RT?
 
nevermind. i should have checked the basics sooner. for some reason, fcp put all my 1080p media back into a 720p timeline so the rendering looked soft and took forever. it was cut at 720p but i specifically converted it to proxies via clipfinder. i guess when i sent it back out of color it decided to revert back to the format it was cut in originally.

fcp can be such a silly goose.
 
...and it's ability to debayer the red footage isn't the best either...
 
Colin Hubick said:
...and it's ability to debayer the red footage isn't the best either...
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How so? As near as I can tell from my testing (With the new 4.0b plugin) Color produces an image that is functionally indistinguishable from RC-X.

As far as the original issue goes, yeah, FCP/Color can bit a bit weird when it comes to scaling and such. In my experience, if you're using the whole "Send to..." workflow, it *doesn't* scale. 2K files in, 2K files out, despite what you set it up to do. Any scaling is sent back to FCP via the XML.
 
Ben Brainerd said:
How so? As near as I can tell from my testing (With the new 4.0b plugin) Color produces an image that is functionally indistinguishable from RC-X.

As far as the original issue goes, yeah, FCP/Color can bit a bit weird when it comes to scaling and such. In my experience, if you're using the whole "Send to..." workflow, it *doesn't* scale. 2K files in, 2K files out, despite what you set it up to do. Any scaling is sent back to FCP via the XML.
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The released version produces softer debayers then other options. Good to hear the beta is doing the debayer better.
 
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