Mysterium X Build, vs. Build 21

[Christopher Probst]

Is the new build of firmware for the upgraded Mysterium X Red Ones built upon the same features as Build 21? From what I have found, aside from the different color science, FLUT and RedColor, it seems to be the same... 4.5K, Redcode 42...

Can anyone confirm and/or elaborate. I plan to use an M-X R1 on an upcoming commercial shoot this week...

 

[Chuck Z]

I suspect they are identical as well.

I'm sure the builds have separate code trees for RED One cameras with and without the Mysterium-X.

However, I'm sure most of the coding goes into supporting the surrounding hardware. After all, the upgrade was only for the sensor and OLPF. Remember, there are lots of other little parts that go tick inside the RED One body.

 

[Stuart English]

Build 21 (Mysterium) v's Build 30 (Mysterium-X)

Build 21 (Mysterium) v's Build 30 (Mysterium-X)

aside from the different color science, FLUT™™™™ and RedColor ...

Aside from those, yes it's the essentially same...so roughly equivalent to having a heart and lung transplant.

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

wow cool, so basically epic will have all the R1 features too plus some goodies like different viewing LUTs on the monitoring paths (hope my memory serves me well)

 

[Rick Darge]

Aside from those, yes it's the essentially same...so roughly equivalent to having a heart and lung transplant.

So what's the MX upgrade akin to then?

 

[Nick Burridge]

So what's the MX upgrade akin to then?

Brain transplant of course. :rolleyes5:

 

[Greg M]

So what's the MX upgrade akin to then?

its like getting a new camera, the difference is really amazing. Honestly not sure why anyone would not spend the $5k to get this upgrade.

 

[Rick Darge]

Rent, food & water

 

[Greg M]

Rent, food & water

Why worry about those insignificant things when you can have a new camera

 

[Rick Darge]

Why worry about those insignificant things when you can have a new camera

Haha, for some reason I read that in a southern preacher's voice

 

[Christopher Probst]

I must say, thus far this new sensor seem very promising...

 

[PatC]

Its sensitivity is incredible.

 

[Peter Hodgins]

its like getting a new camera, the difference is really amazing. Honestly not sure why anyone would not spend the $5k to get this upgrade.

I'm figuring on opting for stage III, and shooting Original RED ONE until that time. There must be a lot of people making this financial decision ... no? Should I upgrade and act on stage I or stage II instead? While shooting certain subjects the new chip has no advantage over the original ... am I wrong?

 

[C.H.Haskell]

Aside from those, yes it's the essentially same...so roughly equivalent to having a heart and lung transplant.

Any chance us non MX guys will get a build that includes FLUT and redcolor?

 

[C.H.Haskell]

I'm figuring on opting for stage III, and shooting Original RED ONE until that time. There must be a lot of people making this financial decision ... no? Should I upgrade and act on stage I or stage II instead? While shooting certain subjects the new chip has no advantage over the original ... am I wrong?

Wrong, the new chip (M-X) has several advantages over the original mysterium chip. Higher dynamic range and lower noise floor to name a few. Search forum for some MX examples to compare yourself but its a night and day difference...specially when shooting pass ISO 500.

 

[David Battistella]

I know it's a new chip but I am also curious to see the new Color Science and FLUT™ in the old R1 with a new firmware build. That will also be a good test.

david

 

[Stuart English]

non M-X sensor RED ONE firmware

non M-X sensor RED ONE firmware

Any chance us non MX guys will get a build that includes FLUT™™ and redcolor?

Yes, as soon as we have adjusted a few parameters to optimize that firmware for the Mysterium sensor.

 

[Michael Epple]

So, do the new upgraded MX R1s have all of the same recording options: resolution, bitrate, and framerate, as well as an addition of FLUT controls and a Redcolor viewspace?

 

[Michael Epple]

Nobody has answers to those questions? Red....?

 

[Christopher Probst]

Playing with a M-x Red One this week. I found a few things about the upgraded camera... and Graeme, feel free to chime in here on what's going on.

First off, if you rate the camera at iso 320 with the FLUT at zero, the difference between RAW and RedColor is VERY little, just a touch more contrast and more color saturation it seems. BUT VERY little. Much less than comparing RAW with r709 and certain much less than RedSpace.

I did like having a built in "buffer" when lighting to 709 and having RAW be appreciably less in the highlights as protection. This is now significantly diminished with RedColor and I think I need to adjust my working style some to this new color science.

From what I have read, some at read have generalize that iso and FLUT are interchangeable, with FLUT offering smaller increments of sensitivity adjustment... Is that the case or is there more to it than that?