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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

duh, I don't understand

Ryan Paige said:
It sounds to me like your real problem is that you want an S35 Scarlet but you don't want people to think you're slumming with the 2/3" Scarlet people.
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Actually, I am very much looking forward to the 2/3" Scarlet fixed lens. I think the Scarlet will be an amazing camera and in many ways will beat the shit out of anything in its class. I want at least one of them. I'm going to go for the Epic S35 in the short term however.

Since I rent gear to people of all technical levels all the time, I'm always having to explain what they're getting in layman's terms. There's experts that shoot all the time and then there's people that just want to make their own movie or music video. Most of them haven't even visited Red User, much less stalk it for the latest info.

Its just easier to explain things when there's a clearly defined name for each class of camera. The people I've talked to get utterly confused when I tell them there's a Scarlet S35 and an Epic S35. I always get: "I thought the Scarlet was the little one?" or "What's the difference?" and then its a long explanation about the differences between each and every brain vs. just saying "Scarlet is more like 16mm and Epic is like 35mm" -- that's something most people can get their minds around.

I think that Scarlet 2/3" (see, I had to qualify the sensor size there so you'd know which one I meant) will do amazing 3D on the cheap. I'm a big fan of Scarlet 2/3" -- I think Red will sell tens of thousands of them, if not hundreds of thousands. I will account for at least one, hopefully two.
 
Jeff Coatney said:
If you can afford 35mm, you can afford to rent the options that will make your film more competitive, like more dynamic range, higher frame rates, increased ISO.
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since when did the Scarlet S35 have inferior dynamic range and ISO as compared to EPIC S35? My understanding is that they will possess the same dynamic range and ISO capabilities and will both utilize the Mysterium-X sensor.

Personally, I would very much like to buy the Monstro sensor equipped scarlet FF35. I think it's great that RED is releasing a lower priced version of its top-of-the-line sensors in the Scarlet line. This is what makes RED....well, RED, imho. And we love them for it.
 
Jeff Coatney said:
I never said this, Alex. Read the quote again.
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You are absolutely right, Jeff. My apologies. I was worried there for a second thinking that I missed some important announcement! Cheers, Alex
 
I think Scarlet S35 and FF35, both labelled as DSMC models as opposed to the Epic pro cinema models, will have broad appeal to pro still photographers who want to also shoot motion at normal frame rates or what would be for them high frame rate still sequences compared to normal DSLR's in the 4-8fps range.
Not everyone will be buying these cameras for primarily narrative cinema or TV production and price will be an important issue. Scarlets are reasonably priced, competitive with top of the line pro still cams and can share lenses with them.
 
So the Scarlet 2/3 shoots in 3K?
I've only worked with 1080, can someone tell me the pixel dimensions of the scarlet 2/3? I've found contradicting info about the resolution of 2k and 3k. Are either of these anamorphic or anything? Do theaters crop the top and bottom to get the super wide ratio seen in most movies?
I understand 1080 and below, anamorphic square pixels etc, but I can't find straight forward info on these higher resolutions.
 
David Mullen ASC said:
I believe the 3K Scarlet will record a 3072 x 1728 pixel RAW image, from which you have to generate RGB (you could choose to generate 3K RGB from that, it just won't measure 3K in terms of measurable resolution on a chart -- but the file sizes can be 3K per color).

It should make an excellent 2K and 1080P RGB image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter
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I think the 2/3" Scarlet sensor is native 1.89:1 2k d-cine format at 3072 x 1620 active with HD format at 2880 x 1620 on a .0032 pixel pitch. At least this is what was announced in Oct.'08. No official indication that it has changed. Makes sense as both formats are 1.5x the H and V resolution of 1080p, good for efficient scaling algorithms. It also makes sense in terms of physical size as 3072 pixels is slightly wider than the 2/3" image size reference standard and 2880 is slightly narrower.
Incidently the 2880 x 1620 is also apparently the native resolution of the ARRI Bayer sensors too, though at present they process in camera to a 1080p output format.
 
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