Timecode out for Director/Scripty

[David Fairbanks]

What solutions has everyone come up with to get timecode out to the directors monitor?

With EVF and LCD on, they only get framing not timecode and menus. I don't want to get menus but I do have to get them timecode.

One option that I've found is to get a monitor from TVlogic that displays the timecode from the HDSDI signal. Other option is a separate Timecode reader for window burn in (or separate clock).

 

[Hagwall]

I'v also found this really annoying. I seriously don't understand why the timecod only can be output when using either the EVF or the LCD, not when using both at the same time. Maybe this is something that will be possible in a future bulid?

 

[Steffen Vala]

Has this been updated or become possible on the new builds??

 

[Brian Broz]

Will not be possible on future builds. It's a hardware issue.
I love telling the DP or focus puller we have to lose the eyepiece/EVF at the start of the shoot:-(
Epic will have 3 seperate assigned outs I believe...

Brian

 

[Stuart English]

Timecode for the director

Timecode for the director

Use an HD-SDI monitor with build in timecode reader. Problem solved.

 

[J. Eric Camp]

The panasonic 1710 can read and display the HDSDI timecode.

 

[Rainer Fritz]

Timecode is one thing.... but to read the correct clip number and roll is in my opinion more significant at our productions..... so that the script can write and check the correct correlation between scene number and filename on the script when they get it then afterwords in the edit room....

 

[Thomas Wright]

I've got a 1710 here and have been trying to get the timecode up, tried VITC, LTC etc. but no love, just, for eg.: VITC 00:00:00

Build 20.1.3

 

[Thomas Wright]

cool, jam sync has to be off. I wonder if that affects multi camera shoots. for instance if I had a lockit box would i not be able to view the timecode?

... I don't have any in house at the moment but can one untick jam sync once the time code has been input, but what of leaving the box on the camera?

 

[Thomas Wright]

Aha! so the plot thickens. Seems I can only get Timecode (free run) on the monitor, even when the camera is set to Edgecode (record run)

Anyone know how to get edgecode up on a 1710?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

QTAKE Advanced Video Assist allows you to display timecode and clipname for director or scripty.

 

[Stuart English]

TIMECODE and CLIP NAME

TIMECODE and CLIP NAME

Seems I can only get Timecode (free run) on the monitor, even when the camera is set to Edgecode (record run)

We don't embed the EDGE CODE timecode track in HD-SDI, just TIME OF DAY; however we could add that into future firmware.

Also, it shouldn't make any difference to the presence of timecode in the HD-SDI output if the camera is in Jam Sync or not.


On Build 21, V21.3.2 the CLIP NAME is included as VANC-2 data in HANC.

With an appropriate application - such as QTake - you can read both TIME OF DAY timecode and the corresponding CLIP NAME.

 

[Thomas Wright]

Thanks so much, Time code did work when jam sync was ticked but for some strange reason, and I'll try and replicate it once the cameras are back, it was reading VITC 00:00:00 as I said but then when I unticked Jam Sync the time code came on and then I went back and ticked Jam Sync and everything was fine. might just be a little niggly.

Ticking or unticking Output didn't seem to make a difference either.

I really appreciate your answering my question; thanks.

 

[J. Eric Camp]

The only current solution to allow you to have the LCD and EVF plugged in and to see the mag and clip info remotely is QTAKE as Mark said. This is currently the only system that sees the data and can extract and display it.

Other than that, you should just get real comfortable communicating with the scripty. Ac's calling out clip names and mag changes etc.

 

[Thomas Wright]

QTAKE looks amazing, Under system requirements/Hardware it says:

New Quad Core MacPro
6Gb RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120
2-drive RAID for media
AJA Kona3

New MacBook Pro
4Gb RAM
2-drive RAID for media
AJA IoHD

Am I correct in assuming that it's either the MacPro or MacbookPro that is needed, not both?

 

[Brent J. Craig]

The panasonic 1710 can read and display the HDSDI timecode.

Only the newer versions. There are hundreds of them out there that are not timecode-aware.

 

[Vlado Struhar]

QTAKE looks amazing, Under system requirements/Hardware it says:

New Quad Core MacPro
6Gb RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120
2-drive RAID for media
AJA Kona3

New MacBook Pro
4Gb RAM
2-drive RAID for media
AJA IoHD

Am I correct in assuming that it's either the MacPro or MacbookPro that is needed, not both?

Yes. Laptop version can record single camera, MacPro can do dual cam.

 

[Craig Parkes]

Vlado - I assume qTake won't work with the IO Express from those specs?

 

[Vlado Struhar]

Vlado - I assume qTake won't work with the IO Express from those specs?

QTAKE HDx1 now supports IoExpress with all RED ONE features.

 

[Cail Young]

We don't embed the EDGE CODE timecode track in HD-SDI, just TIME OF DAY; however we could add that into future firmware.

Please do this, it would make the Ki Pro's ARM RECORD mode work the way you would think.

EDIT: i.e. make it either track the display/primary TC track setting or make it a selectable option separate to that.

Yes, they could add support for the IN-RECORD flag, but I think I know who has the faster firmware release cycle out of RED and AJA