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Rediscovering RED

Jay A. Kelley

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As many of you know I have been working on a DVD for the RED camera. It's been quite a journey.. Yes it's coming out and it's close, but I want to share something I discovered while shooting the last module.

I need to keep this cryptic cause I have not asked permission from the person involved if I can write about this BEFORE the release of the DVD.. He knows who he is and if he wants to pipe up, then I am sure he will.

What I experienced many of you will respond to by saying "yeah, of COURSE you can do that.. WTF?!" Well what's obvious to some, is new to others, and this is directed to those people.

I have been on a quest for an "electronic film camera" my whole life.. I thought we were getting somewhere with the Canon XL-1 when it came out, then the Panasonic AJ-SDX900 came along and did even better. Other cameras followed that path, but then, RED came to be, and it was the holy grail for what I wanted. I had a film camera, but with no film! Hot damn!! I was the happiest little kid on the block. I went after my follow focus, my matte box, and everything else I would need to shoot the way I always dreamed.

But I lost something along the way....

I went to the zoo one day to shoot the animals, I took a small cart so I could lug around the various accessories needed to make my pictures.. Matte box, follow focus, rods, filters, etc.

I had fun, but it was work.. And as time went on, unless it was a paid gig I found myself keeping RED on the shelf unless there was a commercial reason to pull it out.

Then over the weekend I had someone out to help me shoot a new module. His attitude about RED is completely different. I won't say he hates accessories, he doesn't, but he hates weight, he also hates anything that makes shooting more complicated than it needs to be.

He avoids matte boxes, follow focus units, and a host of other things. He'll put on an EVF, OR an LCD, but rarely both. He relies on screw on filters, and anything he can find to save weight. His entire rig sleeps in a pretty small backpack.

It took a few days, but watching him I began to think, "hell... Why don't I do that?' The simple truth is that I think I got brainwashed a little, and it happened here on REDuser (I am not assigning blame, I'm a big boy. My responsibility. But let's face it, how many of us throw up photos on here saying "Look how small and minimal my rig is!?! Cool!) I got so into the "Film" scene that RED does, that I forgot the fun and simplicity of just shooting stuff for the sake of it.

After watching my friend for a few days, I began to see RED differently.. I readjusted all my gear, stripping down my camera and only packing what I REALLY needed to get a shot off.. Buying some screw on filters (I use still lenses) and then I went out today, and had the camera with me the whole time I happened along two things I wanted to shoot. Pulled out the camera, hit record and got some footy, then put it back and went on about my day. I feel like I have a whole new camera now. I am so excited to have re-discovered this exciting way to shoot.

To anyone who needs to hear this I will say: The Hollywood style of shooting is fun, and has an appeal, but it's also very limiting and not the end all be all of creation for a visual medium. If you own a RED, and lots of cool accessories, but find you do not shoot with it as much as you feel you should, then strip it down, make it easy to carry, keep it simple, and have fun again.

I'd like to think a lot of us who own this thing are shooters at heart, so shoot.

Hope this helps someone..

Yes there will be something about this in the DVD.. I hope I can do it justice.

Jay

PS I still love my camera toys, I'm just pointing out an alternative.. It's what RED is all about.
 
Jay, it's not just the RED either. I have two cameras sitting in my office that do a great job at what they do. We forget about the fun sometimes and get caught up in the technical. Someone on this board has a great signature which says something to the effect of "there's no use in having sharp images if you have fuzzy ideas."

It feels good to hear someone is rediscovering the joy of shooting. It's always amazing the technology we have at our fingertips and take it for granted.
 
You hit the nail on the head Jay - I go minimal everytime if I have a choice, and even then RED One is still a heavy camera to lug around!
 
That was really interesting to read! As an amateur I found myself thinking more and more "how am I ever going to afford all this?". And although the video-quality of the Canon DSLRs cannot compete with RED RAW(which was discussed a lot the last weeks so lets keep it out of here :D ), I see how they still appeal. They are small and lightweight. Casual shooting :) We have casual gaming with the Nintendo Wii. Now we get casual video production.
Epic and Scarlet will of course be a step even further in the direction as they are smaller while having the Raw capabilities.

I'd like to see some of your "casual footage", Jay :)
 
So,

Did you enjoy your time with Steve Gibby?

I am a MASSIVE FAN of the lightweight RED setup. I love it pimped out for film shoots, but I really love it small and easy to move around.

David
 
I often work as a one-man band. In the past I often took our DSR-570 when out for EFP-style jobs. This summer I bought a ThinkTank backpack and started hiking our RED One around. And indeed — with a bit of experience, and some preparation/anticipation, I now start taking the RED along to those jobs - and not only get a better end product, but have way more fun along the way.

Here's a setup that lasts for a normal shooting day and is comfortable to lug around:
thinktank-explained.jpg

The MBP 15" sits in the flap - along with some cleaning fluid and a couple of small tools and cables.
 
I often work as a one-man band. In the past I often took our DSR-570 when out for EFP-style jobs. This summer I bought a ThinkTank backpack and started hiking our RED One around. And indeed — with a bit of experience, and some preparation/anticipation, I now start taking the RED along to those jobs - and not only get a better end product, but have way more fun along the way.

Here's a setup that lasts for a normal shooting day and is comfortable to lug around:
thinktank-explained.jpg

The MBP 15" sits in the flap - along with some cleaning fluid and a couple of small tools and cables.

That's just beautiful.
 
Great post.
I noticed along the way how you became the "gotta have that Arri FF-4" too guy, so to speak.
This is one reason why the Scarlet could become the big hit.
 
Don't get me wrong, if I'm doing a narrative, then that FF-4 is my hero... But it was helpful to be reminded that I have abilities that lie in places other than narrative, and it's important I share them with RED...

:)
Jay
 
Hi jay,

I really liked your post and have had a similar experience. You know, before the Red I had a JVCHD100 which I absolutely loved. It was all set up ready to go and I had a couple of years of intensive shooting with it, sometimes in very difficult shooting conditions.

I lost that versatality when i bought the Red. I worked with a stripped down rig as well whenever I can.

I love the Red but i cant wait for the Epic X because it looks like you will be able to configure it into a tight and light weight shoulder mounted rig ready to go. For me it is essential that it will sit well on the shoulder with a good weight distribution.
 
I remember there was a thread about "your favourite red setup" or something like that, and in between the steadycams and jibs I hardly dared to show my favorite, which was a totally stripped one, that I could at least keep on my shoulders for an extended period of time because I had stripped it to just 6,5 kilo's. I'd done away with most of the production pack. It was the least sexy of all in that thread, but I have never wanted to change it; I had a huge bag like the one Martin shows, with everything I might need, but I never felt like taking it out unless I really had to; the things you see here: I take them out any time and I'm ready to shoot immediately, except for the booting time of the red. Ofcourse everything becomes different on a fully prepared shoot on set
 

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Remember what Jim said about Peter Jackson's remarks while making "Crossing The Line" - Peter said that small and light was really important. Epic and Scarlet are proof that Jim was listening - you can fully kit out the rig, or just put on the handgrip and go. I can't wait . . . .

As far as shooting feeling like work, back in the nineties I stopped shooting any family video (with a small camera) because it felt too much like work. Later I repented because those key moments with my kids were too good not to record. These days I sometimes have to force myself to shoot when going somewhere when not on the job; I do think Epic with the handgrip and a two second boot up time will make a huge difference in making that easier. In the meantime, let's toast a resurgence of the streamlined Red One!

Matthew Verkler
 
Did you enjoy your time with Steve Gibby?

By the shooting style Jay described, you made a good guess on who his mystery hybrid shooter might be - and your guess is correct!

I spent a great three days with Jay and his staff at his studio near St. Louis, and out in a beautiful forest, as we shot the new Hybrid RED module for his RED 101 DVD. Jay understands really well each style of field production with RED. I simply reminded him of some very cool lightweight (thus mobile) setups of RED that free us up to get unusual images. - and we documented it in a fun and interesting module, including some samples of my hybrid RED footage.

You can find a new library of my lightweight hybrid RED footage by visiting my RED footage collection on Artbeats:

Link: http://www.artbeats.com/footage/search?fh44=1

I shot all of my Artbeats RED footage hybrid style with a crew of one (me!), hiking or pedaling my mountain bike and small bike trailer into the locations, using lightweight hybrid RED setups - using 35mm stills lenses exclusively (mostly Nikon, but some Canon), no matte box (screw-on filters), no follow focus (hand racking lens), eye focusing using 1:1 magnification, exposing using just zebras and histogram, Miller 55 head, Miller Solo 1505 CF legs, and a Cine Saddle where needed.

When I produce, direct, DP, or shoot for large productions, then its with a large crew, sometimes up to 100 people. But when I'm not doing that, you can find me out by myself shooting footage like what I shot for my Artbeats RED collection.

RED One can easily be a 1-person camera...if you open your mind to the possibilities, and develop the skills to shoot by yourself. You simply grab your lightweight RED rig and go out and get some images - just for the love of shooting.

Jay, thank you for a great production experience in St. Louis! I was way happy I spent my time to help you out on this. I think everyone who views your RED 101 DVD will be stoked with the production values and information the entire DVD contains - and adding a Hybrid RED module was a great choice, because it will really open viewer's minds to some alternate possibilities with RED One.
 
I often work as a one-man band. In the past I often took our DSR-570 when out for EFP-style jobs. This summer I bought a ThinkTank backpack and started hiking our RED One around. And indeed — with a bit of experience, and some preparation/anticipation, I now start taking the RED along to those jobs - and not only get a better end product, but have way more fun along the way.

Here's a setup that lasts for a normal shooting day and is comfortable to lug around:
thinktank-explained.jpg

The MBP 15" sits in the flap - along with some cleaning fluid and a couple of small tools and cables.

Martin, Which model of Thinktank backpack is that?

Thanks!
 
Sounds like my relationship , I take her out to nice places buy her nice things accessories and the like but at the end of The day I just want to strip it all off and enjoy her

Haha - a classic! :smilielol5:

Martin, Which model of Thinktank backpack is that?

That's the Think Tank Airport Addicted 2.0 - the biggest offering they have that still fits airline onboard regulations.

http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/airport-addicted-backpack.aspx
 
Haha - a classic! :smilielol5:



That's the Think Tank Airport Addicted 2.0 - the biggest offering they have that still fits airline onboard regulations.

http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/airport-addicted-backpack.aspx

Looks great! But regarding airline travel, I always get busted for carry on weight. In Australia it's 6.5 kilos per carry on, really just enough for the body.

But I suppose my mistake was taking it in a rolling case. Still within size regulation for carry on but they always feel compelled to weigh it.

Maybe if I had a simple backpack, it wouldn't occur to them to weigh it. But I'm guessing the filled pack must be 10k-15k when full?
 
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