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Why did they change the Scarlet schedule?

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Charles Nader

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I'm curious why did RED change their schedule from S35 to now 2/3 chip as the first cameras to be introduced with Epic X?

Is it easier for them to release 2/3 Scarlet or is there more to the story?
 
It's a shame because it seems like most want S35 anyway.

Or maybe i'm just saying that because I do.
 
I would love to know when the Scarlet is going to be available - does anyone know.
 
The Original announcement was a 2/3" camera with fixed lens
 
I'm assuming the greatest demand, biggest seller will be the fixed lens 2/3. If so, that's where I would focus getting into the market first.
 
The 2/3 Scarlet with the Fixed lens is something that connects to a whole new market, prosumers or even consumers with a taste for the extraordinaire.
There are more consumers willing now to pay 3000$ for a 5D II (IMHO and experience) as their DSLR, for taking pictures. So there might be people who will pay for a 3750$ camcorder as well.

Also: the "shooting right out of the box" thing is a very attractive feature of the Fixed Lens Scarlet. I'm still surprised as I thought to make a fully operational system like that is more complicated and time consuming than to just do a brain.

Very exciting. Actually that is, what impressed me about Jim and his Red Team the most. They didn't just say: let's just make a camera that is for professional productions and that's it then. They actually made it possible for amateurs to become part of that. Thanks for caring is all I can say to that!
 
The fixed lens 2/3 is perfectly good to start with. The image quality should be excellent. I personally hate ultra shallow DOF. The 2/3" DOF is perfect to me. A few jobs, make the money back and keep doing more jobs until you get the money for what comes later down the line.
 
No, it was S35

No, it was S35

Stephen Williams said:
The Original announcement was a 2/3" camera with fixed lens
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I don't remember 2/3 fixed Scarlet being the first in line...I do remember it was S35 in Summer/Fall 2009. Unfortunately, they took off the dates in the Scarlet "Detailed System Spec" sheet. I did print it out but I don't have them with me to proof my case.
 
Folks -

I doesn't matter what was originally announced.

Jim has said over and over ... specs, delivery dates, etc. subject to change.

I am 100% confident that the original DSMC "line-up" and specs on the DSMC are going to change. For the better.
 
John Caballero said:
The fixed lens 2/3 is perfectly good to start with. The image quality should be excellent. I personally hate ultra shallow DOF. The 2/3" DOF is perfect to me. A few jobs, make the money back and keep doing more jobs until you get the money for what comes later down the line.
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Nice to hear more people not loving the ultra shallow dof.
 
This is frustrating. There is a big asterisk on every Red announcement, we get that. The asterisk says Red cannot be responsible for release dates.
 
charlesN said:
I don't remember 2/3 fixed Scarlet being the first in line...I do remember it was S35 in Summer/Fall 2009. Unfortunately, they took off the dates in the Scarlet "Detailed System Spec" sheet. I did print it out but I don't have them with me to proof my case.
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Before they made Scarlet and Epic into the DSMC -System, back when they were both stand-alone systems, the Scarlet was a fixed-lens 3k camera. Don't know what the sensor-size was planned back then.

But then everything was changed to what we know now because - as I remember saying back then - there were too many different wishes from the community for such a system.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Red-Digital-Cinema-Unleashes-the-Scarlet-34906.htm
 
The fixed 2/3" Scarlet is still very close to the original concept model, just more flexible and adaptable for different situations and a little larger. The price increase is not bad. It is still less than 1/3rd the cost of its nearest 2/3" HD competitor.
 
I want 2/3 Scarlet for our work. We have or will have S35 Epic also.
 
David Rasberry said:
The fixed 2/3" Scarlet is still very close to the original concept model, just more flexible and adaptable for different situations and a little larger. The price increase is not bad. It is still less than 1/3rd the cost of its nearest 2/3" HD competitor.
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Still, you could make a custom homemade prism and split the image to 4 $3-10 sensor chips (or 1/3rd chips), or four $100 cameras ;) . I don't think competing camera companies want people to pay less.
 
I forgot to post what I was going to.

Economically, it may make more sense for Red to drop the s35 model completely, so people don't get distracted from Epic. Ideally for us, it probably makes more sense to drop the 2/3rd fixed and replace it with a s35 fixed (you can use aperture to increase the DOF) and even drop the 2/3rds, and replace it with a 2/3rds lens mount on a s35 camera. Or you could just have s35 fixed, and FF35 plus 2/3rd inch lens mount item (using binning, you could maintain similar video resolutions FF). Still, if 4/3rds format is different enough to s35 in size (I don't know the measurements), as detachable, I think higher end professionals would still want to buy Epic. So many marketing options, so many. Will be interesting to see what the models physically look like in the end.
 
personally, i hope they pull their finger out and get a move on (joke :P , I know you guys are working damn hard !!)

I'm itching to buy 2 Scarlets to accompany our R1, ideally a PL mount system but i think we can "make do" with the 2/3 fixed. :)
 
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