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looking for an excellent condition Bolex super 16mm camera package....

Why a Bolex?
 
I just want an affordable way to shoot film again.....and I may be using it on a feature to shoot some flashback b-roll to separate it from the Red footy. Do you thins there is a better, affordable super 16mm alternative?
 
I would rather go with an ARRI S with a modified super 16 gate if your not doing sync sound. But that's just my taste in 16mm. You can pretty much get any Bolex and send it to these guys to convert it to super 16
http://www.cameraspro.com/super16.html
 
AFAIK that Arri S has been on Ebay for a very long time. It's a very difficult camera to convert properly, there are a few horror stories from cameras converted in the UK. You might want to arrange a film test before purchase.
Bolex on the other hand is much easier to convert.
 
I've got a beautiful 16mm Rex 5 Bolex with a nice set of 3 primes 12/25/75 and an Angenieux zoom lens, but sorry it's NFS. I love this camera, very reliable, I highly recommend them. Good luck finding one, you'll never want part with it, and there are no software builds to contend with!
 
Aaton ltr s-16 cameras are going for dirt cheap right now, and it's a nice camera to own or have on your desk when you are done.

Nick
 
I am also interested in shooting some old S16 for a flashback and have some basic questions about S16.

I guess the Bolex would be more than reliable enough after being serviced and modified so I suppose that wouldn't be an issue. But what would be the costs of some old S16 stock? And what about the lab costs? I guess all I would need to print would be about 10 minutes of footage, or less.
 
I've found about a dollar a foot (that's CAD, though, YMMV).

Edit:
Just noticed you said print... I've usually done an HD-SR scan.

I shot and printed on S16mm a while ago at Technicolor Vancouver (one of the only colour 16 labs in Canada, I believe). I think it was a few thousand for a finished print of an 8 minute film, including neg cutting and optical sound.
 
By the way, that Arri S is our conversion and I welcome anyone to come and give it a test. It is a true S-16 conversion in everyway. We also had to correct a few upgrades done by Van Diemen. That Arri S just sold on Ebay but I do have more. I also have S-16 Bolex's as well.

check out
http://duallcamera.com/store/Cameras_Super16mm.shtml
 
I do not understand people who dhoot on video to look like film! It will NEVER look like film. Film still the best in so many points. No very good serious productions are shoot on video. Red camera doesn't open any doors either. Make a movie is hard, but selling it is harder. Trust me. I go very often to the Cannes Filn Festival and the first qustion than buyers ask you is: How did you shoot your movie? You say video and they will not take a look at it. If you say on film they will take a look at it. It's so simple. As simple as the Oscar winner 'Hurt locker' was shot on Super 16mm...
If you are serious about film making you must shoot on film. Cameraspro.com make very good Super 16 conversions for any 16mm cameras.
Video is a waste of money and time...It's almost useless if you want to sell your production.
Guy Bodart
Film director/DP
 
Guy Bofdart said:
I do not understand people who dhoot on video to look like film! It will NEVER look like film. Film still the best in so many points. No very good serious productions are shoot on video. Red camera doesn't open any doors either. Make a movie is hard, but selling it is harder. Trust me. I go very often to the Cannes Filn Festival and the first qustion than buyers ask you is: How did you shoot your movie? You say video and they will not take a look at it. If you say on film they will take a look at it. It's so simple. As simple as the Oscar winner 'Hurt locker' was shot on Super 16mm...
If you are serious about film making you must shoot on film. Cameraspro.com make very good Super 16 conversions for any 16mm cameras.
Video is a waste of money and time...It's almost useless if you want to sell your production.
Guy Bodart
Film director/DP
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Uh Oh....here we go. Video vs. Digital. Guess this will always be a stich in someones side. I'm sure someone will soon tell this cat that yes they were at Cannes and sold their film that was shot on video/red or arri digital or sony digital or ?

guess i should never have gotten those jobs with my video camera and give the $$ back.
 
Even Florian Stadler who critized my conversions is shooting on video now. He is not a real DP . 95% of DP's are shooting on film.

To use a film camera, you need to learn how to use it,the film and the light!

I converted 2 cameras for Sonny Miller who is a real Pro.He is one of the cameramen who shot the James Bond movie 'Die another day'

He told me that he was my biggest fan about my work. This is a very serious reference. I converted hundred of uper 16 with any problem. Because I give 6 months waranty. Who will give you 6 months on his work? Why all the Pros are chosing Cameraspro? There is a reason. I am also a film director and DP and I know what a cameraman needs by experience. The other people who convert your camera never shot ONE FOOT of film in their entire life. How can you compare? The crew who built the Concorde are not the people who pilot it ! I build and I shoot! It's a big difference!
Guy Bodart
Cameraspro.com
 
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