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Red One Canon 5D Video Test

Rick, you can upload 1080p videos to Vimeo, and then anyone logged in can download the unaltered 1080p video right from Vimeo. In other words, Vimeo is paying the bandwidth bill.
 
jimhare said:
The 5D seems like it will always be a "if you get it exactly right on set and don't challenge it in post" scenario. A lot of pressure and extra time on set.
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It's not like people weren't doing that for history of film making until relatively recently.....:couch:
 
Tom said:
Rick, you can upload 1080p videos to Vimeo, and then anyone logged in can download the unaltered 1080p video right from Vimeo. In other words, Vimeo is paying the bandwidth bill.
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Genius. I'll do that.
 
who'd say it?.. the best 5d vs red1 comparative is yours old rick.. no charts.. real subjects.. rgdfilms is the messenger.. do not shoot the messenger btw.. ehehehehehe
 
Matt Gottshalk said:
Glad I bought the 5DMKII. I can work within it's limitations and get some great footage at a fraction of the cost of a RED.

If I get some budgets that justify a RED I will certainly rent one.

Otherwise, my clients will more than love the look of the 5DMKII.

Check out this test with a Sigma 50mm 1.4:

http://www.theprogamer.com/daniel/sigma_50_14-stream.mov
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That was a sweet little clip Matt. Makes me want to get the camera even more mainly because I could grab some motion when I don't want to set my Red up. But still I want to mainly use it as a timelapse camera just as I have been doing with my 40D. Plus I don't think Getty would take video stock footage shot with the 5D2. But they will take timelapse shot with it. Looks like a fun camera to have around. Kind of reminds me of the days of the family 8mm film cameras, except much clearer.
 
okay.. red's higher rez but.. 5d 8mm?.. gimme a break lol
 
Andrew Walker said:
That was a sweet little clip Matt. Makes me want to get the camera even more mainly because I could grab some motion when I don't want to set my Red up. But still I want to mainly use it as a timelapse camera just as I have been doing with my 40D. Plus I don't think Getty would take video stock footage shot with the 5D2. But they will take timelapse shot with it. Looks like a fun camera to have around. Kind of reminds me of the days of the family 8mm film cameras, except much clearer.
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Great shot is priceless, regardless the resolution.
 
Joel Kaye said:
I'm not really seeing the compression artificating in these shots. Am I missing something?
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Yeah, I'd like to see some high motion high detail shots, and some fences/brick walls/fabric patterns, so that we can have comparisons of "problem shots" that's likely where the more dramatic differences will become apparent.
 
I have the 1080 version uploading to Vimeo right now. I'll post a link when that becomes available.

I also took an hour to shoot 4 more setups. This time I properly calibrated the 5D with better settings. Basically toned the contrast/saturation all the way down, turned the sharpening to zero and gave it a FAITHFUL picture setting. I wanted to see some super low light action so I pushed the 5D and the Red as far as possible, (2000iso / H1 iso) Results coming later. I am by no means trying to be picture perfect with these tests so take what you will from them. Still learning.
 
Matt Gottshalk said:
Glad I bought the 5DMKII. I can work within it's limitations and get some great footage at a fraction of the cost of a RED.

If I get some budgets that justify a RED I will certainly rent one.

Otherwise, my clients will more than love the look of the 5DMKII.

Check out this test with a Sigma 50mm 1.4:

http://www.theprogamer.com/daniel/sigma_50_14-stream.mov
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MKii's nice... but that video is a turn off from the camera itself. I know it's a sample "test" or whatever, but good grief hyper-shallow and oversaturated. And all those little bumps and jumps.

The MKII right now is pretty much a "sticks" only camera, or you ride forever on a Glidecam 4000.

I suspect Scarlet's gonna be the same way because of how light it is. This is what scares me the most.

Anyway, Thanks for the footages Richard. Indeed, you must use either Faithful or Neutral with settings dialed down to get a decent post-workable image out of the MKii. Or something close to it. Standard looks like crap.

And, as someone else mentioned, nailing White Balance is detrimental. But that's pretty much every camera that doesn't shoot RAW.

Oh and a word on ISO's if you dunno yet: 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 -- Outside of those is dangerous territory!
 
From this test, I think the most differences are about resolution indeed. At the wide end, RED ONE is frankly superior and the gap is visible. It does seem 4K means something, not only hype or sales talk. After all, for any reason there's the Nyquist sampling theorem.

We can't say exactly the same when enters the (shallow) DOF or noiseless properties in scene. Same would apply for lowlight performance. DR might be further tested. Beyond this or skew, RAW is a solid advantage on the RED ONE side but the relative fair bitrate becomes an attractive 5D Mark II feature despite its limitations or what can be said.

About size and weight is apples to oranges. Until the (upcoming) Scarlet release.
 
Emanuel... do you realize you delete your post and repost it every time someone posts after you? At first I thought I was going crazy... but now I'm pretty damned sure that you're a bottom poster.


LoL
 
Kholi said:
MKii's nice... but that video is a turn off from the camera itself. I know it's a sample "test" or whatever, but good grief hyper-shallow and oversaturated. And all those little bumps and jumps.

The MKII right now is pretty much a "sticks" only camera, or you ride forever on a Glidecam 4000.

I suspect Scarlet's gonna be the same way because of how light it is. This is what scares me the most.
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Kholi,

With a proper glass solution such as an IS feature, it is far from being a problem. PM me and I'll provide you a link if you don't believe it.

E. :-)
 
Kholi said:
Emanuel... do you realize you delete your post and repost it every time someone posts after you? At first I thought I was going crazy... but now I'm pretty damned sure that you're a bottom poster.


LoL
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LMAO. Editing is into my blood, I'm addicted to. :)

Now a little bit more seriously, once someone really smart upgraded the browser for a newer version, the 'save' buttom doesn't apply at times for some mysterious reason -- perhaps an old slow computer should be the reason (you see, it happened again). Only the 'delete message' and 'submit reply' buttoms work, the computer freezes.

EDIT -- 'buttom poster' seems nice, though. ;-)
 
Emanuel A. said:
Kholi,

With a proper glass solution such as an IS feature, it is far from being a problem. PM me and I'll provide you a link if you don't believe it.

E. :-)
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IS will be good. In fact, the one thing that might keep an MKii in my possession is a Sigma 18-250 Zoom. Does that linky link of yours feature this lens? =D I'd sure like to see what I'm about to waste my money on. LoL
 
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