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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

EOS 5DmkII users rejoice!

A producer I met with today for a reshoot said they lost about $200k worth of action that was shot on 5D2 because it didn't pass QC. Ouch.
 
Ariana said:
A producer I met with today for a reshoot said they lost about $200k worth of action that was shot on 5D2 because it didn't pass QC. Ouch.
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And that's a Producer that didn't do proper testing beforehand.
 
Matt Gottshalk said:
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Ouch.
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@ Canon website. It is too much odd for being there but it is there.

«By popular demand» too. A 'tech' democracy milestone indeed.

RED revolution is the father.
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
So 24fps is already a reality?
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No. For now it's still a rumor.

Roberto Lequeux said:
1. Line skipping doesn't affect DoF performance obviously, correct?
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Yes and no. It has the normal DOF that would be expected for a 36x24mm sensor at 1080p, except for the aliasing. Aliasing can affect DOF, for example, by making it appear thinner than it should be.

Roberto Lequeux said:
2. There is manual control over the ISO right? How high can it go?
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The June 2 firmware is advertised to offer manual control over ISO as well as f-number and shutter speed.

In video mode, the ISO setting is allowed to go from 100 to 3200. In stills it is allowed to go up to 25,600.

Roberto Lequeux said:
The main appeal for me would be to gain heaps of sensitivity, hopefully enough to shoot at f/5.6 or hopefully even higher in low light situations without gut wrenching amounts of noise.
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The 5D2 does not give you low light performance and deep DOF at the same time. I think 9mm f/1.6 on my XH-A1 had about the same noise as 70mm f/4 on my 5D2. By that standard, it requires using f/2.8 or faster lenses to get any improvement in low light performance over a 1/3" 3-chip. The reason is that 3-chippers have triple the sensor area for the same DOF, and the line skipping of course.

It's only when you open up to significantly shallower DOF that you get the low light advantage of the 5D2.

Roberto Lequeux said:
I don't want the shallow look for something like a BTS. For such use I personally like the idea of deeper DoF, a little noise, and not-as-good color reproduction as your movie...
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Sounds like a job for a 3-chip camera.
 
Tom said:
I think some of this "overheating" stuff might be getting blown out of proportion. I have shot on the 5D2 for hours, almost continuously, and never really noticed it.
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Fore sure pictures don't record smoothly when too hot, having a camera upside down makes it worse. I shot with 5 at the same time, after many hours of shooting 1 camera out of 5 had a problem, on many takes. To put it in perspective we had 12 hours of rushes in 2 days.
 
Daniel Browning said:
No. For now it's still a rumor.



Yes and no. It has the normal DOF that would be expected for a 36x24mm sensor at 1080p, except for the aliasing. Aliasing can affect DOF, for example, by making it appear thinner than it should be.



The June 2 firmware is advertised to offer manual control over ISO as well as f-number and shutter speed.

In video mode, the ISO setting is allowed to go from 100 to 3200. In stills it is allowed to go up to 25,600.



The 5D2 does not give you low light performance and deep DOF at the same time. I think 9mm f/1.6 on my XH-A1 had about the same noise as 70mm f/4 on my 5D2. By that standard, it requires using f/2.8 or faster lenses to get any improvement in low light performance over a 1/3" 3-chip. The reason is that 3-chippers have triple the sensor area for the same DOF, and the line skipping of course.

It's only when you open up to significantly shallower DOF that you get the low light advantage of the 5D2.



Sounds like a job for a 3-chip camera.
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DUUUDE, you already broke my head on the 2nd answer. Hehee..
Thanks again for your posts man... remind me to hire you as soon as I can or buy you a bunch of beer. Whatever you'd prefer. :thumbsup:

Well I guess I am fine with my HVX-200 for BTS anyway, though a 170 would do better for night shoot covering, I have an HMC waiting for me up there that will do the trick for nights. My 200 will look grainy enough during day time.

Well... I am sure people will get tons of millage off these DSLRs but like you said before, if you would allow me to paraphrase, and forgive me if I am mistaken completely: I'd put my money on a 2/3 Scarlet for a personal camera. Hopefully a bigger sensor if possible.
 
Yea lens was between 2.8-4 most of the time. The 17-35 vignettes between 17-20mm. I heard the 16-35 Canon does not vignette. I personally like the vignetting when we're that wide at full frame but I can get rid of it if I zoom to 20mm. I would lock exposure by turning the camera on, pointing it to the ground, locking exposure then shooting away. Sanjin, I'll see about posting a full 1080 version or at least the 720p HD version. My bandwidth is a little low right now!
 
Richard,

super wide angles are sometimes interesting to use but not always and for a human eye is a bit un-real especially

when you have a fast moving objects involved, cars, bikes, buses, etc,...

Have a look at my footage from yesterday where the first three shots were shot on Tokina 11-16mm and all @ 11mm

and the rest on the lake was shot with Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4.

It's all about a sort of distortions called like a barrel and pincushion... more or less...

LINK>>>

I would go for Canon 24mm f/1.4 that is even faster lens then any wider in Canon EF lens set.

Nikon 14-24 is another and maybe the best alternative but is also a bit front heavy for that sort of shooting on a bike.
 
Rick, the 720p version is already available for download at the vimeo page (for anyone logged in).

The 24L is my main lens. It's killer on the 5D2. My copy is sharper than a hooker's switchblade fresh from the knife shop.
 
Tom said:
Rick, the 720p version is already available for download at the vimeo page (for anyone logged in).

The 24L is my main lens. It's killer on the 5D2. My copy is sharper than a hooker's switchblade fresh from the knife shop.
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Nice! :thumbsup:
 
I need to checkout that 24mm but at over $1,500+...ouch!!! Tom, have any video or clips you can share from that lens?

Can't wait for full manual control on Tuesday.. Going out on another good ride then..
 
Richard Darge said:
I need to checkout that 24mm but at over $1,500+...ouch!!! Tom, have any video or clips you can share from that lens?

Can't wait for full manual control on Tuesday.. Going out on another good ride then..
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Check out the shot of the radio telescope dish at around 2:18, that's the 24L in action at night:

http://www.vimeo.com/4038064
 
Sensitivity is amazing, I still find the wobble too distracting for moving shots without image stabilization. Hopefully the new firmware will make this possible, but there aren't any fast EOS wides with IS are there? The 24-105 F4 is the closest. Bummer.
I still won't buy one till they have 24P. Looks like I'll pick up the GH1 first.
 
Tom said:
Check out the shot of the radio telescope dish at around 2:18, that's the 24L in action at night:

http://www.vimeo.com/4038064
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Tom your work is really inspiring. That was an amazing video. 24L looks very sharp. I'll have to test it out when I find more money.. Can you share the secret behind your night timelapse driving shots? Were you just driving very slowly? Those sequences were my favorite. Reminded me of a dream..
 
My wife Ann just came in and watched Tom's video with me and when it finished she said she wished I had shown it to her earlier this evening because she would have been in a better mindset creatively to paint (she had put it off to do some other things). So, as always nice work Tom. She also said the music is perfect for it, and I agree. Just have to work on those guys to let you use it.

Richard, liked your video as well. I did notice the jello effect a little at times but nothing that took me completely out of the video. Love the stuff with the LAX sign. Looking forward to seeing more from you and this camera.
 
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