UO and RPP primes...

[Jannard]

There has been FUD posted about RPP's and UO prime sets being the same
lenses, even though both companies have posted that they are different
designs.

In an effort to give both companies full credit for their respective
designs, I asked UO if we could X-ray each to clearly show the
differences once and for all.

UO gladly acknowledged the need for this and sent over an 85mm. We
sent both the UO 85mm and an 85mm RPP out for X-ray. Here are the
results.

1. There is a difference in the base lens design.

2. There are different number of elements in both lenses.

3. The mechanical design is different.

4. Each lens uses a different glass type for most of the elements.

5. The iris is in a different location on each lens.

I hope this puts the topic to rest.

Jim

 

[Shawn Nelson]

Wow, that is cool. I had no idea so many glass elements were inside of a prime!

 

[David Rasberry]

Welcome back Red leader:beer:

 

[Miltos Pilalitos]

cool photo!

 

[Steve Sherrick]

I was aware that people were saying they were both great lens designs but I hadn't heard that there was accusations they were the same design. In my opinion, the bokeh is different, at least from what I saw at NAB and what I have since seen from video that is emerging of the RPPs.

Still impressive that you had them sent out anyway Jim.

The way I understand it, Unique Optics is only looking to make a limited amount of sets.

 

[Peter Majtan]

Good to see You back at the helm...
There will be plenty of FUD coming Your way. That happens to everyone who is able to show that quality & affordable price are not exclusive terms...

Peter

 

[Evin Grant]

I'm glad! More lenses means more options!

 

[Birns and Sawyer]

This was perhaps the best and easiest way to explain the difference. Thanks for the cool photos.

 

[Paul Hazlett]

I had no doubt, and welcome back!!

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Amazingly cool photo to see inside the lens.

Graeme

 

[Kwan Khan]

Wow.. Thanks

 

[Lee Saxon]

LIES! I don't believe X rays.

I think you need to physically cut them in half and show us the pictures of that

 

[Bob Torrance]

UO vs RPP

UO vs RPP

Great. Appreciate the "transparency" in this matter. Cool x-ray.

Bob Torrance

 

[jonnycom]

I thought the Double Gauss Derivatives looked similar.

 

[Alan Skinner]

and speaking of transparency, I present to you:

Bedtime at the Neverland Ranch

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2008/xray/parent_xray.jpg

EDIT: My Bad! and sorry for the hijack Mr. Jim. No disrespect intended!

 

[David Collard]

Cool xrays. Once again, you handled the lens controversy like a professional. Cool under fire. Grace and determination.

 

[Steve Freebairn]

Thanks for the post Jim, like everyone else said, that's a sweet way to put an end to the questions.

 

[Seth Larney]

Lens skeleton.. sweeeeet

 

[David M]

No fair, bringing incontrovertible FACTS into the argument!

I had to look up what "FUD" means.
I presume you mean the "Fear Uncertainty Doubt" sense.
Interestingly Wikipedia also lists "FUD" as a Mexican manufacturer of hot dogs, sausages and suchlike.
In that case FUD stands for: "Fino, Unico y Delicioso" (Refined, Unique & Delicious), but on the other hand... :angelsad2:

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Welcome back sir! :beer: