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Cambo X2 pro Swing Shift system for Red

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Having tried before both the Arri and Clairmont swing shift systems I was looking for an alternative system to be used on my Red. Since Cambo is a dutch company I turned to them since they have a very good swing shift system, the X2 pro. http://www.cambo.com/Html/news/set01/english/internet/ItemHome27.html Their system have Nikon and Canon EOS mounts, and since I own a Nikon Mount I asked them if they could adapt it for my camera which they did. One of the great advanteges of the system is that they can use a wide variety of taking lenses including Mamiya 645 and RZ and Hasselblad. You can also use View lenses if you buy another lens board. One other advantage is the fact that by not using a traditional bellows system the stress on the bellows is less and extreme angles are easier to set and hold in that position. Since Cambo has a booth at the IBC they asked me to show it to other people to see if there is interest from other redusers so they might start producing it. I hope to have a price in the coming days .
Limitations so far are the fact that you have to turn the Arri base plate around to be able move the tray as close as possible to the body and that since a PL mount has a flange to focal plane distance of 52mm and Nikon has 46,5 the range to adjust will be smaller when using the Mamiya adapter (which I am using right now). If you use view lenses than this won't be much of a problem. However in the coming days they will adapt the bellows with a PL mount, so we can see what possibilities that will bring. I own an IMS mount system but have not put it on my camera yet, but that will be great solution to combine these two. Hereby a still from a shot I took last week and some pics of this beta version that they built for me. Cambo will be on the IBC at Hall11 E71. You need a Red universal mount to put it on the 19mm rods. BTW I don't work for Cambo, I just hink that this might be a new more affordable tool for Red users.

Mick van Rossum NSC
 
I'm a big fan of the great effects you can achieve from swing/shift. I just posted some screen grabs from a job I did with the Century swing/shift lens set here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18540
I'd be very interested in this system, especially if they get a PL mount going.
 
I am most interested in this system and it's price. I just downloaded the movie... thank you Mick.

I look forward to the intel.
 
The Cambo X2-PRO, is a great unit I have used with my 1Ds III and it deserves all the credit that it is getting, I use tilt-shift lenses as well but this is in an other world.
The unit price as a full set varies depending on the parts that you choose, here it is a link to B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498948-REG/Cambo_99010560_X2_Pro_35mm_Camera_Support.html

then you will need one of this for Canon EOS:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498955-REG/Cambo_99030401_XBC_35_Bellows_for_X2_Pro.html

or one of this for Nikon:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498959-REG/Cambo_99030402_XBN_35_Bellows_for_X2_Pro.html

and if you use it with a DSLR like I do then you also need one of this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498949-REG/Cambo_99020811_X_811_Dedicated_Mounting_Plate.html

and other accessories to fit your individual needs can be found here:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...ro&ac=&fi=all&pn=1&ci=0&cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=

ciao
 
Ketch,

Tomorrow I hope to get a final pricing, and be aware that since this is not a standard product since sizes and fittings in the cineworld differ from the canon and nikon fittings the final price will be slightly higher than the SLR version.

Mick van Rossum NSC
 
I am incredibly interested in this system. I assume that I can use my current Nikon lenses using the Cambo tilt-shift system? How on earth does the bellows attach to the front of the red? Is it just sort of like a lens extender with a moveable extension? That is, it has a male Nikon mount on the back and a female Nikon mount on the front?

What is the cost??? And how soon can we get it?

Stephen
 
Stephen Pruitt said:
I am incredibly interested in this system. I assume that I can use my current Nikon lenses using the Cambo tilt-shift system? How on earth does the bellows attach to the front of the red? Is it just sort of like a lens extender with a moveable extension? That is, it has a male Nikon mount on the back and a female Nikon mount on the front?

What is the cost??? And how soon can we get it?

Stephen
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Hi Stephen,
Yes it has a female nikon mount on the back (to adapt to the nikon mount on the red camera (male ?). The other end can not be Nikon for two reasons;
-you need lenses with a big image circle, otherwise you will get vignetting very easily, since you move the lens around. For this reason the Cambo has options to use either TC lenses or mid format lenses like Mamiya or Hasselblad.
-If you'd use Nikon lenses you won't reach infinity since the flange focal distance is too big .

The cost depends on the mount you choose;
if you want to go the Mid format 645/6x6 way you are restricted to the Nikon mount on the red, but it will give you reasonabily priced lenses like mamiya 35/45/55/80mm. Or you can go the hasselblad way with zeiss 40/50/80mm lenses. These adpaters are around 450 euros. The base system is around 2000 euros (without these mamiya or Hasselblad mounts) You'd still need a Red universal mount and you have to rotate the ET baseplate 180 degrees to reach infinty (otherwise the baseplate gets in the way for the focussing tray). You can also go the TC lenses way (shutter 1,2 or 3) which have a longer Flange focal distance and will also allow you to get the PL version of the X4 Pro. It is however more difficult to find especially wide angle lenses (though there is a great 28mm Schneider digitar) and they probably will cost more. I will update this when I have more time to test things out. My estimate for the mount to be avilable will be a couple of weeks, though I have not talked to Cambo about it (but that is wat they said at the IBC), and I don't want to go the Redrockmicro/birger/viewfactor route in making delivery promisses. The only thing I know that this is only a spin off of an existing product, so it won't take months.....

Cheers , hope this helps

Mick van Rossum

You can also have a look at the cambo website to find out how it works
http://www.cambo.com/Html/news/set01/english/internet/ItemHome27.html
 
Mick van Rossum said:
Hi Stephen,
Yes it has a female nikon mount on the back (to adapt to the nikon mount on the red camera (male ?). The other end can not be Nikon for two reasons;
-you need lenses with a big image circle, otherwise you will get vignetting very easily, since you move the lens around. For this reason the Cambo has options to use either TC lenses or mid format lenses like Mamiya or Hasselblad.
-If you'd use Nikon lenses you won't reach infinity since the flange focal distance is too big .

The cost depends on the mount you choose;
if you want to go the Mid format 645/6x6 way you are restricted to the Nikon mount on the red, but it will give you reasonabily priced lenses like mamiya 35/45/55/80mm. Or you can go the hasselblad way with zeiss 40/50/80mm lenses. These adpaters are around 450 euros. The base system is around 2000 euros (without these mamiya or Hasselblad mounts) You'd still need a Red universal mount and you have to rotate the ET baseplate 180 degrees to reach infinty (otherwise the baseplate gets in the way for the focussing tray). You can also go the TC lenses way (shutter 1,2 or 3) which have a longer Flange focal distance and will also allow you to get the PL version of the X4 Pro. It is however more difficult to find especially wide angle lenses (though there is a great 28mm Schneider digitar) and they probably will cost more. I will update this when I have more time to test things out. My estimate for the mount to be avilable will be a couple of weeks, though I have not talked to Cambo about it (but that is wat they said at the IBC), and I don't want to go the Redrockmicro/birger/viewfactor route in making delivery promisses. The only thing I know that this is only a spin off of an existing product, so it won't take months.....

Cheers , hope this helps

Mick van Rossum

You can also have a look at the cambo website to find out how it works
http://www.cambo.com/Html/news/set01/english/internet/ItemHome27.html
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Hey Mick,
Has there been any progress in adapting this system to pl mount with rod attachments?
 
Hey David,

What exactly do you mean by rod attachments except for the 19mm ones already in place ? I have been very busy since IBC and have not spoken to the lads at Cambo for a long time. I doubt the PL version is going to work as an affordable option since you have to use the more expensive Digitars to get the proper flange focal distance, and since the DSMC's are announced with interchangable lens mounts I think that thts will be the way to go, since Nikon and Canon work perfectly with it while still be using Mamiya or Hasselblad lenses.

Mick
 
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