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RED Rocket

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Antoine Baumann said:
Jean-Luc only works with video cam now. If I'm correct his last movie was shot with hdv cam, and (that i am sure of it) he even tried to "shoot" it back to 35 by filming his huge plasma screen with 35mm cam. But finally this job was done by a proper lab.

Red would be too big for him, he likes small cams.

About the workflow, is a redcine 2.0 (out of beta) for linux coming?

thanks,
antoine.
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This is more or less how Jean-Luc looks today.

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This is a small camera (Beaulieu R16mm) that Godard was shooting with.

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RED1 4K hand held camera with Tamron 28-105mm f/2.8 (18-70mm S35mm) zoom that also Godard could use for his movies.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
Not until I can use REDCode as an intermediary format. (I'm not use Cineform NEO right now. But I'm also not using REDCode).

Also I'm seeing some big problems in my computer right now....

GPU takes up two bays....
Castic Raytracing Card is going to take up a PCI bay. ttp://www.caustic.com/
Now this thing will take up a PCI E spot too....

I don't know that it'll all fit....
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http://dulcesystems.com/html/pro_ex.html
 
Simon Valderrama said:
wow. Will it be possible for the card to work in conjunction with other cards like Aja IO HD or Kona 3 or will be there conflicts in Final Cut?
This way one could use Aja products for non-RED projects and accelerate at the same time R3Ds using the RED Rocket ...
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I'd suggest they would clash. At the very least you'd need to boot from a different partition.

Then again, why shoot on anything else now:)
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
Are we still far away from RT 10-bit grading?
Just wondering aloud.
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Robert, I've seen nothing to indicate that it is only 8 bit. Do you know something I don't know? I'd be surprised if it isn't 12 bit - the files are (or am I wrong? Too tired to go look it up) and that would probably be easier to do - process out as in...
 
Wow, exactly what I've been waiting for. That sounds even more exciting than the primes !:)

Will it also be able to render files in realtime (for example from RAW to DNxHD 1080P or other codecs, or DPX sequences) ?

Will it work with Avid ? Color ?

And when will it be available ?
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
jean_luc_godard_narrowweb__300x422,0.jpg

This is more or less how Jean-Luc looks today.

HambourgGodard.jpg

This is a small camera (Beaulieu R16mm) that Godard was shooting with.

Tamron28-105f2-8_02.JPG
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you're just (?) forgetting to compare the difference between the revolutionary 16 mm small-sized cameras and this new $5k workflow bunch of money for 35 shooting..
 
What slot speed is required - x4 , x8 or x16?
Does this replace the primary graphic card?
With 4x DVI / HD-SDI ports this would require dual slot space. Unless this is replacement for the primary graphic card, this can be a major issue. As it is we are short on ports on the Mac Pro's...

I can't wait to get my hands on this one!

:) Peter
 
WesScog said:
Fixed. :)
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Got Milk??


Hey kids we just passed another mile stone on your left!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see it shredding data tonight at the Rio!!

Thanks Jim & RED team...no wonder no sleeps at RED...You guys have the best toys!!!!

Dave
 
It would be great if there was some way to accelerate laptop work too - wishful thinking?
 
Peter Majtan said:
What slot speed is required - x4 , x8 or x16?
Does this replace the primary graphic card?
With 4x DVI / HD-SDI ports this would require dual slot space. Unless this is replacement for the primary graphic card, this can be a major issue. As it is we are short on ports on the Mac Pro's...

I can't wait to get my hands on this one!

:) Peter
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Double slot isn't necessarily required. You could put the actual outputs on a breakout box, and tether that to a single thickness card. (Providing that outputs is the only reason for going double thickness.)

Some way of mounting this in an external chassis would be great. AJA can do it over FW800, and there has been some success using desktop GPUs in external housings that connect to laptops via en expresscard. I think that some of the Matrox MXO products take this approach,
 
As mentioned on the other threads, why oh why did they limit it to 8-bit DVI?
 
ok, so you have the economic resources to design completely new products, but you can't finish the scarlet you started years ago?:thumbsup: yah
 
Justin Thomas said:
ok, so you have the economic resources to design completely new products, but you can't finish the scarlet you started years ago?:thumbsup: yah
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Scarlet was only announced at last year's NAB, and I haven't heard anything about the schedule slipping much since the big December refresh... Anyway, this is a pretty important product for the existing RED ONE workflow and most of the new cameras, so I'm glad they're working on it as well.
 
Justin Thomas said:
ok, so you have the economic resources to design completely new products, but you can't finish the scarlet you started years ago?:thumbsup: yah
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It's all part of the same process.

At a guess the new card is using a variant of the ASIC being developed for the DSMC line. Once that design is finalised, the rest of the card isn't that difficult in comparison, especially considering the background of some of the people in the Red team.

Once the two key chips for the cameras are done (ASIC and CMOS) I suspect the floodgates will open in terms of interesting stuff from RED reaching market.

Then again, maybe this card is subcontracted out to a third party. I think offhollywood may have dropped a little hint a couple of days ago; maybe I'm reading too much into some comments.
 
Shane Betts said:
Robert, I've seen nothing to indicate that it is only 8 bit. Do you know something I don't know? I'd be surprised if it isn't 12 bit - the files are (or am I wrong? Too tired to go look it up) and that would probably be easier to do - process out as in...
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No, I haven't but what I am worried about is intensive grading if it has to be handled by the Red Rocket all while debayering 5k and making a 1080 out of it. Ultimately the grading should be applied before downconversion, meaning the process should be that much more intensive.

So I wonder how all of this will work and what the actual capabilities will be.

Will we get the details tomorrow?

Karlgustav said:
It's all part of the same process.

At a guess the new card is using a variant of the ASIC being developed for the DSMC line.
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This is what I thought too.
 
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