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Offhollywood on prime lenses

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Mark L. Pederson

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I just wanted to make a quick post as a few folks have PM's me to ask me my thoughts on buying lenses - this vs. that.

When I posted about testing the RPPs - I actually held myself back as i thought if I expressed how impressed I really was - nobody would take my posts seriously.

I'm still never sure if people take my word as unbiased - if folks only knew how critical I really am - and how hard I push and torment some of the folks on team Red for new features - they would not think that for a moment.

I sent an email to Jim that day - (he was out of the office) - and I said I wish I had a Master Prime there as they sure seemed to me to be in that ballpark. I was truly blown away.

I'm not a cinematographer, and I am not lens expert. But I meet, and have the opportunity to work with, more successful cinematographers every day, and I listen closely and I pay attention - I am always learning - and I look at Red acquired footage virtually every single work day since the cameras shipped.

I reserved 4 sets of RPPs a long, long time ago. I want one set yesterday - and I am happy to wait for the other three until shipping ramps up - because I know that is actually going to happen faster than folks think.

No, I have not tried the new IBE lenses or the Arri Compact Primes - but I've seen what I've seen and I know some prices are not set in stone - but the ranges are defined and I personally don't think ANY of these other lens solutions comes close to matching a price/performance level of the RPPs.

I think it's great that there are choices - and no question that competition drives prices DOWN - and that's better for YOU and better for ME. Not so great maybe for JIM - but he started this whole revolution anyway and I'm am sure he'll be just fine.

I'm going to build up a RPP + Optimo zoom inventory for the high end clients (until I see more zooms from RED). I have a set of SuperSpeeds owned by someone else that we keep in our rental inventory that work a lot because of the speed - so IF the Luma set can stand up resolution and quality wise - I think it might be a nice move to round out an inventory of RPPs with a set - we shall see.

I encourage everyone to see everything - but I think when you see these RPPs - you are going to GET IT.

I will make a point to post some stuff from real jobs our RPPs shoot right out of the gate.
 
Saw the lenses yesterday. Jim said that I repeated several of your exclamations as they snapped into focus. Very impressive. The bar has definitely been raised.
 
You guys are making it so hard on those of us who are not going to NAB. I'm sitting here drooling and rubbing my credit card. (someone has to stay home and take all the work)
 
Mark

I don't know if i'll get the chance to meet you at NAB Mark but I have appreciated your input over the last couple years. I look forward to the reduser event. I'll buy you a drink if I run into you.
 
Ditto Mark. You are one of those guys on here who's advice I really take to heart.
 
for me it's between the RPPs and the Zeiss Compact Primes (right now), until i see and feel both. and more importantly, get the results of that S.A.L.T. coming up.

I am leaning heavily towards REDs lenses for now, because of two things:

1. Mark's reviews. Although I do think he is a BIT biased, he knows what is good.
2. RED's habit of breaking price/quality barriers like never before.
 
Chris Parker said:
for me it's between the RPPs and the Zeiss Compact Primes (right now), until i see and feel both. and more importantly, get the results of that S.A.L.T. coming up.

I am leaning heavily towards REDs lenses for now, because of two things:

1. Mark's reviews. Although I do think he is a BIT biased, he knows what is good.
2. RED's habit of breaking price/quality barriers like never before.
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Not a difficult choice when you compare the T stops of the lenses LOL
 
Chris Parker said:
there is a lot more to a lens than the T-stop. and the difference in T-stop between the 2 i mentioned is quite small.
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Enjoy lighting your night shoot to T3.8 thats 4 times the light I need than with the Red primes

Best

Stephen
 
Isn't it also a hassle that the Zeiss Compact Primes have different T-stops? I don't know much about lenses, but like the fact that the RPP's are all rated the same except for the very widest (14mm T?).
 
Curran Giddens said:
Isn't it also a hassle to have all the lenses at a different T-stop? I don't know much about lenses, but like the fact that the RPP's are all rated the same except for the very widest (14mm T?).
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Could be also for 18mm different T stop too.
 
Mike Prevette said:
You guys are making it so hard on those of us who are not going to NAB. I'm sitting here drooling and rubbing my credit card. (someone has to stay home and take all the work)
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I feel your pain... :beer:
 
Chris Parker said:
the Zeiss Compact Primes are 3.5??? i thought they were 2.1, but have not had time to research this lately, and have only been glancing at the news pouring in.

thanks for clarifying stephen, i especially appreciated the WAY you informed me.....
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Hi,

They vary the 18mm is T3.8 not 3.5!

Stephen
 
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