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California considers ban on big screen TVs

glad we just got that plasma :)

I'd probably suggest, instead of a ban, a a substantial additional tax, to be used to further integrate green energy technologies. That way companies will continue to develop bigger and better, more energy efficient, greener TVs to be sold at walmart and target prices, but if the millionaire still wants his 108" HD set, he can have it and pay an additional 12% to help install wind power :)
 
Well this is bad news...so they seriously think putting a ban on large screen TVs in an economy like this is a great idea? Bigger TVs have never been in such high demand, and now they want to ban them for green house gas emissions? I'm all for a green economy, but this is bit far on the left scale for me, and to use my new favorite word, it's hogwash.
 
sadly, we have a bunch of deranged circus animals running the government up in Sacramento. :(

the entire lot of them in both houses and the governors mansion should be tossed into jail so we can get a fresh start.
 
remember, they're talking about banning TV's that aren't energy efficient, which happened to tend to be large sets. They're not banning "anything larger than 42 inches" (i think, I didn't read the article lol)

this is meant to encourage development of greener large TVs, which I can get behind, although I like my tax idea better ;)
 
these turkeys in sacramento are the worst. they have completely bankrupted the world's eighth-largest economy with their out-of-control spending. they never even bother to think through the consequences of any of their actions.

we already had millions of people and businesses fleeing the highest income, gas and sales taxes in the nation, then they decide to enact the largest tax raise for a state in the history of the nation on top of it! unreal.

instead of wasting billions on corrupt payoffs to their cronies and political contributors, why didn't they invest heavily in solar and wind power over the last 10 or 15 years? then they wouldn't have to be policing our living rooms and television sets. why haven't they invested in desalinization near coastal cities so we have enough water for our farms? these people are a complete disgrace.
 
I'm not in CA, but it seems they want to ban TV's that consume more than a certain number of watts. Many new LED backlight LCD displays and certain projection displays will be OK. You can take most plasma displays and kiss them goodbye. Personally, I think this is just plain stupid. Plenty of other appliances or devices out there that consume just as much or more energy. So it seems odd to single-out large TVs. I think they need to use the Energy-Star program as a basis, update some requirements and then make it mandatory, giving manufacturers one year to comply.
 
The people who wrote this legislation obviously aren't watching their movies on Pioneer Kuros!

Seriously though, plasma is dying out already, so what market is this regulation targeting?
 
What's even worse, is that people will STILL order large screen TVs online from out of state. People will find a way. All this is going to do is put more retail outlets out of business. I'm sure large screen TVs are a nice chunk of profit for the majority of electronic stores; to have that suddenly taken away is a bit much.
 
My PC draws more power than my 46" LCD. Is my PC and graphics card next on the hit list?

And again, I would ask these clowns in sacramento: why are we not building solar farms in the mojave?

I sometimes come across these new solar farm projects, where the panels heat pipes that carry water, which in turn drive steam turbines -- 100% renewable. California alone, with our vast deserts, could power half the nation in terms of electricity.

But this assumes that we have intelligent leaders in sacramento, which we do not. :(
 
Tom said:
My PC draws more power than my 46" LCD. Is my PC and graphics card next on the hit list?

And again, I would ask these clowns in sacramento: why are we not building solar farms in the mojave?

I sometimes come across these new solar farm projects, where the panels heat pipes that carry water, which in turn drive steam turbines -- 100% renewable. California alone, with our vast deserts, could power half the nation in terms of electricity.

But this assumes that we have intelligent leaders in sacramento, which we do not. :(
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Because Feinstein has a NIMBY complex and is a hypocrite.
 
It seems like a lot of Californians want to have their cake and eat it too...

they talk a big game about "green" and "solar" but then they say NO! to developing solar farms out in the Mojave...

they want to ban big energy consuming HDTV's but they turn a blind eye to Los Angeles being the single biggest smog producer this side of Jupiter....

I just don't get California sometimes.

I'd say I'm a pretty left/center guy... but damn... some of ya'lls best and brightest don't have a f**king clue.... and don't get me started on Pelosi

( hopefully I don't get the thread shutdown for being too political )
 
Jacob_Ross said:
I'd say I'm a pretty left/center guy... but damn... some of ya'lls best and brightest don't have a f**king clue.... and don't get me started on Pelosi
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Most of California's best and brightest are working in industries, or have already fled the state.

Like you said, we have hundreds of square miles of empty, barren desert that could be used for solar farms to power probably half the United States, so why has Sacramento been throwing tens of billions of dollars down the tubes with payouts to their political contributors, while the state is being subjected to power and water rationing? I was down at Salton Sea a couple weeks ago, and the farmers down there told me they cannot properly water their crops, because of water shortages. :(

We have a gang of frauds and fools in Sacramento. They are probably the worst state government in the last 30 years or so.
 
Ordinary Californians have to take some blame for the budget mess in Sacramento -- we have this crazy system of legislating through public propositions, so basically now that revenue has dropped due to falling property values and income, we have deficit spending built into the system because of all the mandated spending programs created by the public through the proposition system.

So the public binds the hands on the California government by telling them to spend "x" amount of money, but then makes them have to achieve a 2/3 majority in the legislature to pass any budget. It's budget insanity designed into the system and blaming it all on legislators is not completely fair.

Plus our voting districts fall so much along certain ideological fault lines that it ensures that people are elected who have little motivation to govern practically as opposed to cater to the extreme views of the local people who vote them into office.

We need to get rid of the 2/3 requirement for passing budgets, we need to re-draw the districts and distribute representation more evenly, and we have to allow the legislature and governor some degree of discretion to not spend the money required by a proposition if the money doesn't exist that year.
 
Tom said:
these turkeys in sacramento are the worst. they have completely bankrupted the world's eighth-largest economy with their out-of-control spending. they never even bother to think through the consequences of any of their actions.

we already had millions of people and businesses fleeing the highest income, gas and sales taxes in the nation, then they decide to enact the largest tax raise for a state in the history of the nation on top of it! unreal.

instead of wasting billions on corrupt payoffs to their cronies and political contributors, why didn't they invest heavily in solar and wind power over the last 10 or 15 years? then they wouldn't have to be policing our living rooms and television sets. why haven't they invested in desalinization near coastal cities so we have enough water for our farms? these people are a complete disgrace.
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Hear, Hear!!!
 
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