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Canon 5d Mark II users: lock down those primes... playa

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hey guys,

I've been shooting like crazy since I got my canon 5d mark II and, I must say, prime lenses that open up to 1.8 are ridiculously awesome. My 50mm at 1.8 was damn near life changing... no shit. Now, though, I've learned that without IS (image stabilization) you're going to get some extremely amateur looking shots unless you're on a jib, tripod, crane, or steadicam. So, for the handheld shooters go for the 28-135 IS lens that canon offers. Of course you could always get the 24-105 L if you have the money.

I'll be buying the IS today and I'll report back on how good the handheld shooting is, but from the videos I've seen posted, I know already it will be much more stable. I also tried smoothcam (the fcp plugin) on my handheld shots, with the prime lenses, and it sucked donkey balls. The "jello cam" effect which wasn't in my shots before, became all too prominent. It's almost like smoothcam created the jello effect.
 
Are you sure IS will even work in video mode, playa?
 
the IS is built into the lens. It's described as a gyroscope that keeps everything stabilized. Video or no video. I apologize that I can't go into more detail than that, because I honestly (and rarely so here) have no idea what I'm talking about. But, check these vids out. Also look, he's using a 70mm! I can't think of anytime that one should shoot 70mm handheld! Looks incredible with the IS

http://www.canon5dtips.com/2009/01/buying-an-is-vr-lens-or-not/
 
Yeah I wasn't sure, because it seemed like you needed to half-press the shutter button to engage IS, so I was wondering how that works in video mode.
 
Just received my 5D Mark II and was bummed to find out that my Canon 10-22 EF-S will not go on the 5D. My 70-200 L IS works great but I need wide angle the most. Can anyone suggest the best possible wide-angle, fast lens that will work with the 5D-MII? L-IS would be preferable but not sure if they make that.

I plan on shooting some video with the 5DMII and Canon 70-200L next week and wish I had the Birger mount for my R1 to compare same scene with same lens and exposure settings. I am certain the Red will blow it away but I'm curious how noticeable the differences are at SD and 720p resolution after scaling both down from highest resolution using best methods for each.

Has anyone seen such a comparison? Same lens, scene, etc.?

-shooter
 
Red One shooting 4K destroys the image quality of the 5D2. The only advantage of 5D2 might be low light, which it does well.

For wide angle, the Canon EF 16-35 L is a good lens (like a grown up version of the 10-22), and the Nikon 14-24 G is the best. Only problem is, you need an adapter for Nikon G adapters, and it takes months to get them, custom made. Another option would be the Contax Zeiss 17-35, but it's quite expensive and rare, and requires a complicated adapter.
 
Hi Tom:

So there aren't any options in the 10-11mm range?

I know the R1 will blow the 5D2 away. I am just curious by how much once both rezzed down to SD or 720p and compressed for web like Vimeo. Only way for me to know for sure is to control for all variables but the body/sensor myself.

-shooter
 
Well, the 5D2 of course has the 1.6 times larger sensor, so the EF 16-35 is almost exactly equivalent to your 10-22 on an EF-S body, like the 40D or whatever.

In terms of rectilinear lenses, I think 14mm is about as wide as you can go on a full-frame camera. For EF-S cameras, 9mm is about the widest I think.

Once you get wider than that, you're dealing with fisheye lenses.
 
Thanks Tom. I keep forgetting that. I'll look into the 16-35 L then. Thanks. Now just to be sure, would both the 11-22 and 16-35 work on my R1 with Birger mount and would 10-22 be wider and similar to the 10-22 on a 40D but the 16-35 wouldn't be as wide? Why doesn't the 5D2 support the 10-22 btw?

-shooter
 
EF vs EF-S. The EF-S lenses have a deeper intrusion into the camera body designed for the APS-C size sensors, because the mirrors are smaller and thus have more clearance room.

The 5D is full frame so its mirror is larger and will strike the back of the 10-22 lens. The other factor is that EF-S designs cover the smaller image circle needed for APS-C (and Super35 btw) so they will vignette badly on full frame sensors.

HTH

Paul
 
IS on my 28-135 is constantly running when in video mode. I'd be worried about the IS mechanics going constantly. With stills it's only engaged for a couple of seconds at a time, in video you could be using IS more in one day, than what you'd do in a year with stills.

There are 12mm rectilinear lenses for FF, Sigma 12-24 etc. Finding subjects to shoot at a 121 degree diagonal angle is another matter.
 
Picked up the 28-135 last night and the results are dramatically different. We shot some video from all the focal lengths the lens has to offer and I was surprised at how much different the handheld shots looked once the stabilization was turned on. I was showing a buddy how steady the shot was, then I looked down and realized I was all the way out to 135mm. Hilarious! I would never shoot 135 handheld, but it's nice to know that I could.

So, I'd say an IS lens definitely changes the game with this camera. Plus, I got an awesome deal on the lens from a photographer that bought it and damn near never used it, because he has a tamron 2.8 zoom lens that he shoots. Then I kissed a pretty girl at a bar afterwards.. ok I'm getting off topic, but the lens made my night and it was a good night!
 
kidrobot said:
IS on my 28-135 is constantly running when in video mode. I'd be worried about the IS mechanics going constantly. With stills it's only engaged for a couple of seconds at a time, in video you could be using IS more in one day, than what you'd do in a year with stills.

There are 12mm rectilinear lenses for FF, Sigma 12-24 etc. Finding subjects to shoot at a 121 degree diagonal angle is another matter.
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Doesn't the IS constantly run when the shutter is half-pressed too. How are the hand-held results with your 24-105 on 5D2 with IS on? Can be tuned off if don't need right?

Also, is there a wider L-IS than 24mm? Haven't been able to find one.

-shooter
 
oh you're right... sorry missed that. I think a lens has to be a zoom in order to be an IS, I don't see any lenses made by canon for what you're looking for.
 
shooter said:
Thanks Tom. I keep forgetting that. I'll look into the 16-35 L then. Thanks. Now just to be sure, would both the 11-22 and 16-35 work on my R1 with Birger mount and would 10-22 be wider and similar to the 10-22 on a 40D but the 16-35 wouldn't be as wide? Why doesn't the 5D2 support the 10-22 btw?

-shooter
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That's correct... the EF-S 10-22 will be much wider on Red One than the EF 16-35 will be. Red One's sensor is similar in size to an EF-S body.

With Canon, you can use EF lenses on an EF-S body, but you can never use EF-S lenses on an EF body. With Red you can use EF-S or EF. But EF lenses have a 1.6 magnification factor.

JN, what triggers the IS system to kick in on the 5D2? You're not having to press the shutter release are you?
 
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