Panasonic launch 1080p 24 fps Micro Four Thirds DSLR YouTube video

[Sanjin Jukic]

Panasonic GH1 DSLR

YouTube video>>Panasonic launch 1080p 24 fps Micro Four Thirds DSLR >>>

 

[Karl Gustav H.]

Stu M has done a far better job that I of explaining the pro's and con's of this thing.

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2009/03/panasonic-gh1.html

The other big thing is a lack of any remotely fast glass in micro4/3.

Anyway, I think its best to continue this conversation in the thread already running in off-topic.

 

[Juhan Malmstein]

Don't forget the 720p 60fps mode. Looks very promising in comparison to the Nikon d90 and 5d mII. While in Nikon's and Canon's case the stress is still on the photo taking it's clear that this camera is putting more stress on better movie recording while being merely an OK stills camera.


edit: Ah and of course the obviously massive downside of having only a few lens to select from.

 

[Nils J. Nesse]

The other big thing is a lack of any remotely fast glass in micro4/3.

Well, micro4/3 is compatible with regular 4/3 via an adapter. So you can use the Olympus 14-35mm f/2.0 and 35-100mm f2.0 -- the fastest zooms in any SLR-mount.

 

[Michael Hastings]

Well, micro4/3 is compatible with regular 4/3 via an adapter. So you can use the Olympus 14-35mm f/2.0 and 35-100mm f2.0 -- the fastest zooms in any SLR-mount.

Low cost, high quality F2.0 zooms that cover RED 3K is one of the reasons that a 4/3 mount is on the todo list at Birger.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Stu M has done a far better job that I of explaining the pro's and con's of this thing.

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2009/03/panasonic-gh1.html

The other big thing is a lack of any remotely fast glass in micro4/3.

Anyway, I think its best to continue this conversation in the thread already running in off-topic.

Leica D Summilux 25mm f/1.4 Asph>>>

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Lumix G Vario 7-14mm (14-28mm FF35) f/4.0>>>

Lumix G Vario 7-14mm (14-28mm FF35) f/4.0 fits in a palm of your hand.

 

[Douglas Underdahl]

Anyone know the low light capability of this cam? Or, in other words, what's the native ASA of this thing?

 

[kidrobot]

ISO 100, but it's like a half frame camera compared to a FF35. Going by the Olympus E-3 pro FT DSLR's low light performance, I doubt this will be able to match the Nikons or Canons. But who cares? This is so frikkin exciting as it is.

 

[Karl Gustav H.]

Sanjin, F/4 isn't fast in anyone's book, and the tasty glass needs the adapter. While you don't have a reduction in light as I understand it (its only an mechanical, not optical adapter) not all glass supports manual focusing. While this is no great loss for some, especially shooting motion, it does limit your options if using it as intended, as a stills and motion capture device.

I agree that on a regular 4/3 Birger is a good thing, and that there is nice glass with the regular mount.

I was talking about the downsides of micro4/3 on the GH1 as a poor-mans Scarlet/ proof of concept device, in adition to the fact that it records 60i. One would imagine that the HDMI output is also 60i, so recording that stream isn't really a viable option. Maybe Red has spoilt me, but I would never spend serious money on anything that doesn't capture and record motion at a true 24p.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Anyone know the low light capability of this cam? Or, in other words, what's the native ASA of this thing?

"EXPOSURE CONTROL

- Light Metering System 144-zone multi-pattern sensing system
- Light Metering Mode Intelligent Multiple / Center Weighted / Spot
- Metering Range EV 0-18 (F2.0 lens, ISO 100)
- Exposure Mode Program AE / Aperture Priority AE / Shutter Priority AE / Manual
- ISO Sensitivity Auto / 100 / 200 / 400 / 800 / 1600 / 3200 / Intelligent ISO
- Exposure Compensation 1/3 EV Step ±3 EV
- AE Lock AF / AE LOCK button or Shutter button halfway pressed
- AE Bracket 3, 5, 7 frames, in 1/3 or 2/3 EV Step, ±2 EV"

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Sanjin, F/4 isn't fast in anyone's book, and the tasty glass needs the adapter. While you don't have a reduction in light as I understand it (its only an mechanical, not optical adapter) not all glass supports manual focusing. While this is no great loss for some, especially shooting motion, it does limit your options if using it as intended, as a stills and motion capture device.

I agree that on a regular 4/3 Birger is a good thing, and that there is nice glass with the regular mount.

I was talking about the downsides of micro4/3 on the GH1 as a poor-mans Scarlet/ proof of concept device, in adition to the fact that it records 60i. One would imagine that the HDMI output is also 60i, so recording that stream isn't really a viable option. Maybe Red has spoilt me, but I would never spend serious money on anything that doesn't capture and record motion at a true 24p.

I do not know so much right now but Leica Summilux 25mm is F/1.4 that should be the fastest FourThirds lens available.

 

[Douglas Underdahl]

And they said you could put Leica M glass on it with an adapter! Zooks!! I've had a bunch of RED users ask me for a M adapter for the RED . . .

Will be good to see how it works at, say, asa 800 or 1600 and beyond, and if it has acceptable skew, what post hoops you have to jump through.

 

[Kyle Presley]

And one of the most expensive!

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

And they said you could put Leica M glass on it with an adapter! Zooks!! I've had a bunch of RED users ask me for a M adapter for the RED . . .

Will be good to see how it works at, say, asa 800 or 1600 and beyond, and if it has acceptable skew, what post hoops you have to jump through.

It's still not clear is it for Leica R (recently discontinued production by Leica) or Leica M mount?!

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[Roberto B]

i think jarred should open a new panny corner..

 

[Roberto B]

And one of the most expensive!

shhh.. don't tell anyone here..

 

[Josh Negrin]

Is it just me, or is this camera not as exciting as the 5d mark II? I may be slightly biased because I just ordered the mark II, but a full frame sensor and canon primes!!!

 

[Tom Lowe]

Is it just me, or is this camera not as exciting as the 5d mark II? I may be slightly biased because I just ordered the mark II, but a full frame sensor and canon primes!!!

not to mention Canon zooms and super telephotos, Nikon zooms and primes, contax zeiss converted glass at full frame with no crop factor, etc.

my questions about this system are mainly centered around the downsampling methods and possible artifacts, lack of ISO, as well as the apparent problems with finding super wide lenses for it.

then again, the 5D2 has plenty of moire and other demosaicing artifacting issues. perhaps they will be fixed with a firmware upgrade, but who knows.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

perhaps they will be fixed with a firmware upgrade, but who knows.

Have you heard anything about firmware upgrade?

I think Canon won't do any other changes to the MKII. The goal is not to kill potential sells of other products. They do business like Apple and Sony : push developement as fast as the competition does.

Patrick

 

[Josh Negrin]

it's all speculative at this point. www.canonrumors.com seems to be the go to source. they've called quite a few things recently, dead on.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

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And they said you could put Leica M glass on it with an adapter! Zooks!! I've had a bunch of RED users ask me for a M adapter for the RED . . .

Will be good to see how it works at, say, asa 800 or 1600 and beyond, and if it has acceptable skew, what post hoops you have to jump through.

Flange distance of Leica M bayonet mount is 27.95 mm and the Micro Four Thirds System has a flange-to-sensor distance of only 20 mm.

Low light situation:

Sample at the picture below shot with Vario G 14-45mm

Exposure: Manual
Shutter Speed: 5 sec (!!!)
Aperture: F 5.6
Focal Distance: 18mm (35mm Equiv: 36mm)
Light Metering: Intelligent Multiple
ISO sensitivity: 100

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i think jarred should open a new panny corner..

Thanks filmmaker's gang for your vote but unfortunately I do not have time to be a MOD.

I'm just having a little time for a bit of fun at the forum in between my daily jobs...

Terribly sorry...