23.98, 24 or 25 for film and PAL

[Alessandro Pinto]

Hello,
I've read all the threads about this argument, but it isn't still clear for me, sorry.
We'll have to shoot in Europe and the material will be screened in theatre and broadcasted in HD and PAL. What is the best frame rate to shoot to avoid problems in post, audio sync and PAL conversion?
Thank you.

 

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

I don't understand your saying you're going to have a theatrical run and then go into TV?
I would say shoot 25 frames if your ultimately going to end up in PAL.

 

[Dave Blackham]

25fps

 

[Alessandro Pinto]

I don't understand your saying you're going to have a theatrical run and then go into TV?
I would say shoot 25 frames if your ultimately going to end up in PAL.

Thanks.
Yes, my first destination is movie theaters with film projectors and digital projectors, so I'll have to print to film with film recorder and prepare also the DCI package. Then, If we sell to TV, I'll have to deliver in HDCAM and Digibeta or IMX PAL format.
So It's better to shoot in 25 fps? Thanks again.

 

[Christian Tanner]

features used to be shot at 24fps - for tv they just speed it up to 25 fps (so 6%). no conversion whatsoever. even the pitch of the actors voice got higher.

 

[Michael.B]

Where is the broadcast going to be?

 

[Brandon Fraley]

if you're low budget, 25fps will give you the fewest problems in the long run. If you have a budget, your producer or post pro supervisor will know better than us.

 

[Alessandro Pinto]

Where is the broadcast going to be?

In Europe, in countries with PAL system.

 

[Lewis-M Soucy]

As a rule of thumb in Europe, for theatrical, either FILM or HD, 25fps is acceptable since most (and I should say ALL) movie theaters projectors can run 24 AND 25fps, just like film cameras. So it's just a matter of marking that properly on film cans, as it should be anyway. Theatrical HD is 25 anyway, (although I heard some stuff was shot/shown in 24P).

Now for TV, wheter HD or SD, it's 25fps.

So yes, to keep things simple and cheap, definitely shoot 25fps...

 

[Michael.B]

In Europe, in countries with PAL system.

Yes then working in 25p is a good idea.