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EVF or monitor

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Casper Warnich

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Do you find yourselves using the EVF or the on-camera monitor when shooting with the Red One?

I plan on getting a Red One, but I don't know which to choose. On my old HVX I never found myself using the EVF, even though it has more resolution, I couldn't get used to it.

Any thoughts?
 
I think you need both. We use an EFV and a TVlogic 7 inch monitor which seems to be the most flexable solution.

For any one using a Gates Deep Red housing the 5.6 is required. Not relevent to most users but worth bearing in mind.
 
We have both the small LCD as well as the EVF, but we hardly use the EVF actually. If you mount both, you will only make the camera heavier. Not bad if you only move around in a studio, but if you have to carry your stuff around, the RED with lens is more than heavy enough to skip going to the gym at night. The LCD is really good. Keep in mind that if you get the EVF, you also need something extra to properly mount it (which isn't exactly cheap either for a bit of clever steel) because with the little arm from RED, the EVF is only swinging around making it very annoying to use. The EVF itself is good though, but since you are used to using the LCD I don't see any need to change this habit now. However I am positive that there are many here that will disagree with me :) We come from a DVX/HVX/HDX background as well by the way.
 
I say try both first and learn what suits you best. I ended up selling my EVF a few days after I got it because I just couldn't adapt to it. Found myself using the LCD most of the time anyway. The EVF was just sitting there, weighing my rig to one side and drawing juice for nothing. Doing without it was not hard at all. Never missed it. I did, however, come to fancy one of those optical viewing hoods for the LCD, like OptiTek's or Action Products', but never got around to buy one.

But, like Blair says- "YMMV," so try before you buy!
 
Both...

But if I had to pick between the two, I would go with the LCD monitor. The EVF is very cool and is my preferred viewing option when outdoors in birght sunlight or when I throw the camera on my shoulder. Otherwise, I prefer the LCD. ...YMMV... I probably use the LCD 90% of the time.
 
both...,

but if I would have to decide between the two: EVF
Why: Much better control of camera movements and sharpness. More, and very useful userkey buttons (audiocontrol, varispeed settings...). Great for shoulder mounted setup (I take some wheight of my shoulders by using a belt batteryplate).
But honestly, I wouldn´t like to miss the LCD. Its much more comfortable to scroll through the camera menu with the LCD.

Marc
 
Thanks a lot all,
this makes it easier :calm:


Marc Berger said:
both...,

but if I would have to decide between the two: EVF
Why: Much better control of camera movements and sharpness.

Marc
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Camera movements? Elaborate, please :mellow:
 
I could care less if I'm using a EVF/LCD/Monitor but never, never, never send out your Red EVF with a noga/isreali arm or 1 for that matter. This is a fast way to piss off the crew into never using your camera package again;)

a Hoodman is also a must... I had an awning&canvas company in Michigan make a Custom Hoodman for DP Mark Irwin's Astro on A-Cam. Some DP's prefer having there whole face in the hoodman to better see the image.
 
I think there is a difference between people how much they are sensitive for flickering lights. For me, I never get used to the EVF because i can see it flicker and i see rainbows when i move my eyes.
 
If your just getting started use the LCD, they are light and relatively cheap, in fact you can pick up a used one for about a G, when you can, get a hold of an EVF or rent one, they are pretty nice, but they are also pretty big.

Cheers...
 
Both.... EVF for the operator and the Monitor for the focuspuller.
 
If I could only afford one, I'd get the 7" LCD. Light, bright, excellent image. Great for focus. I wouldn't use an off brand LCD (pana, nebtek, etc) because you can't transmit all the user menu stuff and they're significantly heavier.

I've a 7" Nebtek and only use that as a second location monitor (something for the director to carry around).

If you can afford both get both. Bright days, the EVF is best. I'd also recommend some scractch / glare resistant plexi for the lcd (I use Nebteks w/ velcro).
 
Casper Warnich said:
Do you find yourselves using the EVF or the on-camera monitor when shooting with the Red One?
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Both, but it really depends on your shooting style and what you're shooting. If I'm shooting handheld/shoulder outside in bright daylight then I prefer the EVF, but for indoor stuff I usually use the LCD. If I'm lucky enough to have someone else pull focus for me then I use both. I just mount the LCD on the side of the camera for the AC (great ACs don't pull focus by looking at a monitor;-)
 
I think the EVF is sharper than the LCD and use it all the time and use the monitor for the director to look at on the other side of the camera.
 
Both!

When I first started building out my package, I thought I could save money by settling for one or the other. Sort of like how I thought I could find a cheap fluid head (hah).

I think each serves a different purpose and you are going to find yourself in shooting situations, lighting situations and etc. where you will wish you had whichever one you don't have.

Also remember that you may want to have an assistant pulling focus and they'll need to be looking at the LCD while you are viewing through the EVF. It's almost impossible to pull reliable focus at 4k on the EVF even at 2 to 1.

With either one, make sure you order a 10 foot cable or even longer if you can find one. Makes it really convenient if for example you want to adjust lights on set in front of the camera while viewing the effects on the LCD or EVF real-time.

-shooter
 
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