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Sachtler 7+7 Studio II fluid head?

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Giancarlo Bianchi

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Does anyone know if this is a good tripod for the red?
Also what element techinca Arri dovetails fits well?

Thanks in advanced.
 
Giancarlo Bianchi said:
Does anyone know if this is a good tripod for the red?
Also what element techinca Arri dovetails fits well?
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I've got one and it's a great head for the RED! The only problem I might see with it is the weight counterbalance rating is 35-120 lbs. If you've got a really light weight setup then it will be harder to counter balance, but it's fairly easy to get up to 35lbs with the RED!

I believe all of the ET dovetails will work the Studio II. I don't know that for a fact, but I believe I read that they all have the same standard holes on the bottom. I would like to know though, since I am going to move to the et 19mm base and dovetail.

Matthew
 
Thanks Matthew....

Well, I`ll try to put the swintronix hotsawp with two batteries and the red drive over so I get a little weight then!!! :whistling:

If you look on the ET`s website, there`s a model that fit the Oconnor 2060 and the Sachtler Cine 30HD...
And there`s the 1030 model, that I suppose fits all the other tripods, smaller tripods I guess.

So for this head my beth would be the model for the 2060. Could anyone confirm that?
 
Giancarlo,
I'm pretty sure the Studio II is essentially the same as a Video 30, or Studio 30. It uses a large Sachtler quick-release, rather than a "Europlate" dovetail receiver (like an O'Connor 25-75) So the dovetail need only be tapped with 3/8"-16 holes to accommodate.
Therefore, I think Matthew is correct. Any standard Arri or ET dovetail will work.
Pass along an email (with photos) to the folks at ET and they can steer you along...
Cheers,
Harry
 
Actually, the Studio II is equal to the Video 60. However, the design is the same (if you are comparing the Video 30 and 60.) I believe the deal with one of the ET dovetails is that on certain o'connor heads you don't have to attach a quick release plate to the dovetail--the dovetail acts as the quick release plate!

Matthew
 
Yes, that's correct Matthew. On my 27-75s I can remove the so-called "Europlate" and a new style Arri (or any ET) dovetail will slide in.
Thanks for the clarification on the Studio II. I thought it was the same as the 30 models.
Cheers,
Harry
 
Yes...
9+9 is a really nice head. I also like the worm-gear driven fore/aft adjustment. You can really get fine tuned with that.
I think it has more counterbalance than my O'Connors. I can get full counterbalance along any degree of tilt with the Sachtler 9+9, using an Optimo 24-290 and an Arricam ST with 1,000' load in the rear. I cannot really get the O'Connor 25-75 head to "stay" with the same setup.
Cheers,
Harry
 
i am using a 7x7 studio II all the time when shooting red ... it's not the most modern design from sachtler (because the head is quite old), but does a great job.

as soon as i put my red with primes, battery, red drive, mattebox i had no problem with counterbalance ;-)

... and don't forget the mule for carrying!

best regards,
martin
 
We have two 7+7 Studio II. It´s a great, reliable head. Not too heavy compared with the 9+9,the Cine 75HD or the O´Connor 2575. The 7+7 is still a great success and people still ask for it over the newer and heavier heads because of it weight.
It works well with an Arri 435 with prime lenses or a very light zoom. Heavier cameras like a moviecam Compact, a 535 or an Arricam needs for a stronger head, specially when fitted with heavy zooms like the Optimo 24-290.
 
there were rumours sachtler discontinues service for the studio II, but i called them last week and they said they are still providing servicing.

regards,
martin
 
Hey!!! Thanks for all your inputs!! Unfortunately, as you may have guessed, I was getting it second hand and it run out of my hands, anyway.
I just found a Sachtler 9+9 that`s almost at the same price range as an Oconnor 2060, whick one would you recommend?
After reading Harry Clarks comment that he can get a better degree of counterbalance with the 9+9 than with the 2575, Im leaning toward the Sachtler. What do you think?
 
martinnoweck said:
there were rumours sachtler discontinues service for the studio II, but i called them last week and they said they are still providing servicing.
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I have the full blown drawings for them, and evidently there is not much difference between the old ones and new ones. The counterbalance has changed (in the late 90's/early 00's) but the fluid part is still pretty much the same. Sachtler did such a freakin good job on their heads. Both of the Sachtler heads I own were made in the 70's and still work beautifully!

Matthew
 
Giancarlo Bianchi said:
After reading Harry Clarks comment that he can get a better degree of counterbalance with the 9+9 than with the 2575, Im leaning toward the Sachtler. What do you think?
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Not sure what you mean by that - the Oconnor counterbalance is much more fine-grained than anything Sachtler has built; however off the top of my head I couldn't comment on the relative maximum counterbalance force of each.
 
I mean after reading this post:

Harry Clark said:
Yes...
9+9 is a really nice head. I also like the worm-gear driven fore/aft adjustment. You can really get fine tuned with that.
I think it has more counterbalance than my O'Connors. I can get full counterbalance along any degree of tilt with the Sachtler 9+9, using an Optimo 24-290 and an Arricam ST with 1,000' load in the rear. I cannot really get the O'Connor 25-75 head to "stay" with the same setup.
Cheers,
Harry
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For the the 9+9 and the Oconnor 2060Hd are booth good tripods, thats why it is hard for me to decide.
 
I only meant that the highest spring on the 9+9 is stronger than all the way cranked up on the 25-75.
I don't own a 9+9, but I've been on jobs with two Arricam STs and 24-290s, as I described, and the 9+9 could provide full counterbalance with the camera tilted up or down (meaning the camera would stay wherever the operator put it) while my camera would not, using my 25-75.
Just a casual observation. Still love the 25-75, and of course, the spring is infinitely adjustable. Just pointing out that the 9+9 is a great head too.
Cheers,
Harry
 
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