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Proxie Editing & ONLINE

Proxies and bugs with the build 17?

Proxies and bugs with the build 17?

Hello,

Thank you Big T from your very enlightening messages!

I have just one simple question:
Have you had any bugs with build 17 and FCP?
Or are u using builb no 16?

(As they say that FCP installer Supports RED ONE cameras up through Build 16.)

best regards,

Ville
 
On 17, and every thing is sweet...

Actually we did have one problem.. we had a bunch of clips in the time line turning green... PANIC!!!!. all we did was delete all the rendered files from the FCP scatch disk, saved, quit FCP, then restarted FCP... fixed.

Back into it.:gun:


Villetanttu@mac.com said:
Hello,

Thank you Big T from your very enlightening messages!

I have just one simple question:
Have you had any bugs with build 17 and FCP?
Or are u using builb no 16?

(As they say that FCP installer Supports RED ONE cameras up through Build 16.)

best regards,

Ville
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Thanks Big T for the tests.

It's fresh air!

RED heavy proxy/conforming workflow is so time and energy consuming since REDCINE retired the TIFF QuickTime codec (it was too good i suppose), i almost put the RED in the closet. I used my little Sony EX1 a lot more often, seriously.It's sad...

I'll give it a try. Sounds good.

Thanks VERY MUCH for sharing.
That's a positive thread.

Antoine
 
Big T said:
Just Make a new sequence, set settings to your desired 2k frame size.
Copy your IK edit into it.
Reconnect media (swapping M's for H's..
Done.

(but be aware, all your 1k edits in your other time lines will change as well.
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So you go through clip by clip and redirect the _M to the _H? Then you have to resize the 1k to 100%? I guess that could go quick depending on the project. Do you use media manger? You have to take the _M offline, correct? Is it just me or does freakin adobe premiere have a better flow with QT proxy?

There should be one ref proxy file and FCP determines what resolution it pulls from the .r3d... You switch your timeline and bam! it's done.

I'm curious about all this please. I am editing 8 cameras "multicam for a live DVD and I'm obviously not going to be able to do it with 2k. If I transcode them to prorez it is a possibility but I think that is the worst workflow in the world. I have a 10 bay raid with an 8 core mac pro... I really want to use the 1k proxies to get through the multi cam and then switch to 1080p.

How exactly to I get from 1k to 2k and then to 1080p from the proxies???

Do I achieve 1920x1080 or even an SD format by simply making a FCP movie? seems like I have to have some 3rd party to get to redcine from FCP... I'd rather never use redcine or redalert. Transcoding is for the birds... It's outrageous to have to render your footage just to edit it. Give me a tape for now... Well decks are quite expensive, I take it back...

Thanks for the help with the proxy dilemma.
 
Nope.

Edit _M(1K)

export XML

Load into Clipfinder > Conform
Point to red media folder > reconform Choose _H(2k)

Load XML into FCP

Set to safe + full quality

then either change seq setting to 1080 and pan n scan or scale per shot

or

Create a new sequence that is 1920x1080
Nest 2k sequence in there for a simple crop or scale


render

Personally if your heading for 1080 your better off shooting 16:9

and no imho Abobe doesnt have a better workflow

and yes you can have a single file and let fcp determine/extract from that single file it's called using Log and Transfer.

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I have had good luck testing Clipfinder, try that for your workflow, paulk.

Good luck.
 
Thanks flameop and Rowland.

First project with red so just trying to get my head around it all, confirmation that it will work right :) That sounds like a good option. Thanks for writing it out.

Log and transfer is not cool. I'm saying it would be sweet if the seq settings changed the resolution without having to reconform. It seems like a possibility if FCP could see the r3d file like color does. Then you could just render out of FCP whatever rez you choose.
 
Rendering _M Proxy and Scaling

Rendering _M Proxy and Scaling

Big T, when your change the RT settings to high quality and render out. Isn't your sequence set to the size of the _M proxy file? So for 2K it would be 1024 by 568. How do you scale it up for laying off to HDCAM?


Cheers,
Ernesto
 
New Mac edit bay recommendations please.

I am building an edit system in preparation for red/fcp/ae rendering and do not see that the speed of the 2.26GHz macs is improved much with the 2.93GHz “Nehalem” processors

Is 2.93GHz worth the cost over the 2.26?
 
I'm a little confused by all the info about RED workflows cause people keep telling me different. I have just shot a feature with about 11 hours material, that will be editied in FCP down to a 1,5 hour film. Can someone answer these few questions please:
1. Can I use the M.mov proxy files to do an full offline edit (including disolves/wipes, etc)?
2. Can I do this on an Macbook pro or even a macbook?
3. Can I then do the online using the 4K R3R file in a more powerful computer (including colorgrading, graphics, etc)?
4. Any risks, disadvantages or other things to think about along the way?
 
Oscar Petersson said:
I'm a little confused by all the info about RED workflows cause people keep telling me different. I have just shot a feature with about 11 hours material, that will be editied in FCP down to a 1,5 hour film. Can someone answer these few questions please:
1. Can I use the M.mov proxy files to do an full offline edit (including disolves/wipes, etc)?
2. Can I do this on an Macbook pro or even a macbook?
3. Can I then do the online using the 4K R3R file in a more powerful computer (including colorgrading, graphics, etc)?
4. Any risks, disadvantages or other things to think about along the way?
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1. Yes
2. Editing works fine on my 2 year old Macbook Pro, although when you start added dissolves you need to start rendering.
3. You can either use something like crimson to conform by yourself, or you can hire a scratch system. Either way it's fairly easy to get back to the r3ds. (I hear, I've never done it myself. I always just edit the proxies as my online. no complaints so far.)
 
Crimson is good, but just one thing.. it can't have more than 100 cuts in the sequence. You will have you divide up your feature into multiple pieces. Some say it's not a big deal, but for me, this fact alone makes me want to get a scratch system. Having to save the look files and load that back is just painful as your project gets longer. It might be okay by some, but I'm all about being efficient.. :)

Best,
 
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