Best guess: weight of a scarlet 2/3 with mini prime

[J Davis]

1. What is your guess at the weight of a scarlet 2/3 with miniprime lens?
(EVF, I/O, rails, CF instead of drive, and new battery module)

2. What tripod that you would choose to support it?
(thinking light as u r carrying all your own gear)

 

[Zach Nelson]

Way too premature for this question. Wait 6 months.

 

[Vinit Borrison]

for question #2:

I'd recommend something in the manfrotto lineup with a 503 or better head, small light, portable, and will work with the weight of the camera i'm sure....

 

[Liam Hall]

for question #2:

I'd recommend something in the manfrotto lineup with a 503 or better head, small light, portable, and will work with the weight of the camera i'm sure....

I think you'll need something that can handle more weight. The 503 is designed for lightweight camcorders, it's a good budget solution, but I think (guess) that even a stripped down Scarlet will be coming in a little heavier than an EX1 or an HVX.

Luckily, there are already many good options available for cameras of all weights and budgets - you don't necessarily need a Ronford Baker or an Oconnor either but you will need a set-up with a carbon fiber sticks if you want to keep it light.

 

[John Godden]

I think you'll need something that can handle more weight. The 503 is designed for lightweight camcorders, it's a good budget solution, but I think (guess) that even a stripped down Scarlet will be coming in a little heavier than an EX1 or an HVX.

Luckily, there are already many good options available for cameras of all weights and budgets - you don't necessarily need a Ronford Baker or an Oconnor either but you will need a set-up with a carbon fiber sticks if you want to keep it light.

Hmmmmmm............... A "stripped down" Scarlet should be less weight than an HVX.

JohnG

 

[J Davis]

The stripped down config that I mentioned in post one is pretty damn stripped.
Any more it might be a still cam, but ...

I think ole Mr Jim likes metal bodies on cameras and each of these
modules has a good chance of a metal casing.
There was a render (can't find the post) that showed the S35 with modules
next to the R1 and it was physically smaller. The 2/3 should be smaller still.
How much does an R1 weigh?
What is the average weight of a 2/3 cinema lens?

Plus there will be less heat management because of ASICs, see post
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=343917&postcount=4

 

[kevinfluet]

I think ole Mr Jim likes metal bodies on cameras and each of these modules has a good chance of a metal casing.

Metal good. I have an old B&H Filmo near my desk. It seems indestructible, and still isn't too heavy to hand-hold. Of course, I don't think anybody expects a Scarlet to still be useful in 60 years so maybe that's overkill.

 

[Liam Hall]

Hmmmmmm............... A "stripped down" Scarlet should be less weight than an HVX.

JohnG

How so? If it's half the size of the RED One it will be heavier than the HVX.

 

[David Swan]

Well the original body spec said <3lb. Hmmm......Putting that into the metric units everybody else uses gives about 1.4 Kg.
Looking in the Edmund cat, I see 2/3" lenses under 100g. Ruggedise and add gears and you'd be looking at say 150-250g each, perhaps 500 for the 75mm, so 1.6-2.0 Kg for a body and lens, perhaps 2.5 kg for a working unit or 3-3.6 Kg all up with MB abd rails.
My bare HVX with Batt and Card comes in at 3.0 Kg (I weighed it).
HTH
David

 

[Liam Hall]

Well the original body spec said <3lb. Hmmm......Putting that into the metric units everybody else uses gives about 1.4 Kg.
Looking in the Edmund cat, I see 2/3" lenses under 100g. Ruggedise and add gears and you'd be looking at say 150-250g each, perhaps 500 for the 75mm, so 1.6-2.0 Kg for a body and lens, perhaps 2.5 kg for a working unit or 3-3.6 Kg all up with MB abd rails.
My bare HVX with Batt and Card comes in at 3.0 Kg (I weighed it).
HTH
David

It's a good game, guessing the weight of a camera that's six months from delivery, maybe we should have a sweepstake

FWIW your HVX is made of plastic. That's why it's so light.

The original quoted weight for scarlet was just for a brain; no recording module, viewfinder, battery or remote. It's also worth noting that a 40mm zeiss digiprime weighs nearly 1 1/2 kilos and the zooms are getting on for 3 kilos. I wouldn't expect the RED primes to be much less.

I'll assume the OP wants to use a mattebox, since he mentioned rails, so that's another kilo for a redrock mattebox.

So, my guess is (I'm probably way off) we're looking at something in the region of 8-12 kilos. Still lighter than a F900.

BTW. What's the Edmund cat(alogue)? Who be they? Are they any good?

 

[Larry Gebhardt]

Edmund Scientific. I have bought stuff from them in the distant past, not lately, but back then they sold machine vision c-mt lenses that are relatively small...think Switar / Bolex type prime lenses. From the renderings that RED put up on the Mini-Primes, they looked to be larger than the ones sold by Edmund, but not by a whole lot.

Larry

 

[David Swan]

Liam, some of the outer casing of the HVX is plastic, but most is cast Magnesium alloy. Do you have an HVX? Have you actually looked / handlesd one?
Edmund sell serious industrial / scientific kit (Think deep IR, deep UV, special optical materials).
www.edmundoptics.com

 

[wardovision]

The original quoted weight for scarlet was just for a brain; no recording module, viewfinder, battery or remote.

no, the quoted weight was for the entire camera. The brain only/ modular concept didn't come around until November 13th.

 

[Liam Hall]

Liam, some of the outer casing of the HVX is plastic, but most is cast Magnesium alloy. Do you have an HVX? Have you actually looked / handlesd one?
Edmund sell serious industrial / scientific kit (Think deep IR, deep UV, special optical materials).
www.edmundoptics.com

I've shot with one, I think it's a good camera and it certainly produced nice images. I take your point about the cast magnesium, but having shot with a RED One I also know the way they like to build their toys too.

I've shot with all sorts of cameras, from 35mm Arri's, through to Sony F900s, Panasonic Varicams and a host of others including HDV and DV cameras, but the closest camera system to Scarlet that I've handled is a Hasselblad H2 with a leaf digital back - which is pretty heavy (at least heavy compared to my RZ67). I think Scarlet, loaded with a battery and rails will be heavier - I'm sure you'll be able to configure the camera to lighter configuration too, but that's not what the OP asked.

Re Edmund, I looked them up, they've got some interesting looking products.

 

[J Davis]

Thanks guys,
I was keeping an eye on craigslist for a used 501 or 503 but maybe I should wait a little
and see what specs come out in near future.