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Mic Mount?

Rick Darge

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How are people attaching their microphones to the Red? I usually gaff tape mine to the Red-Raid..
 
Richard Darge said:
How are people attaching their microphones to the Red? I usually gaff tape mine to the Red-Raid..
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Richard,

I use Rode and Manfrotto mount accessories to attach Rode NTG3 on RED1.

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Rode NTG3 on RED1.

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Rode NTG3 on RED1.
 
I used to and still do work in Audio so have perhaps a strong view on this point. The worst place a mic can be mounted is on a camera. Not to mention camera noise, cameraman noise (grunting, breathing etc) its in the wrong place perspective wise. All you can really hope to get is a form of ambience. If your on a tripod best put the mic on a stand in a suitable place, I used to have a short pole with a spike on the end for work out doors to put in soft ground that may a useful mount too.

The rule for perspective that always seemed to work is if using a Sennheiser 416 or MKH60 short gun mic was if the mic is on the edge of frame then the perspective was about right. There are exceptions to this but its a good rule to have in mind.

Dave
 
Dave,

you are totally right.

Mic should be always a bit far away from the "noisy" cam like a RED1 is.

Also in general.

But it could be some exceptions like a one man run&gun documentary shooting where

you are all in just one person: director, cinematographer, focus puller and sound man.

That is about my one man run&gun documentary rig with RED1.

I'm sure if you are like a Soderbergh "muscles" shooting documentary than you have another

sound guy that record sound separate from recording to RED1.

One more thing:

Mic on RED1 could be always good to record audio at one channel as a reference sound

to a separate recorded sound on Nagra, Fostex, Sound Design or Cantar high end professional audio recorders.
 
Dave Blackham said:
I used to and still do work in Audio so have perhaps a strong view on this point. The worst place a mic can be mounted is on a camera. Not to mention camera noise, cameraman noise (grunting, breathing etc) its in the wrong place perspective wise. All you can really hope to get is a form of ambience. If your on a tripod best put the mic on a stand in a suitable place, I used to have a short pole with a spike on the end for work out doors to put in soft ground that may a useful mount too.

The rule for perspective that always seemed to work is if using a Sennheiser 416 or MKH60 short gun mic was if the mic is on the edge of frame then the perspective was about right. There are exceptions to this but its a good rule to have in mind.

Dave
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I just sold my 815T recently, but it would have actually been a very funny visual to have on top of the Red One. Other than the silliness of having it mounted on the camera, it actually would probably provide a somewhat useable audio track as long as the talent was within a few feet of the camera and in the sweet spot. But for those who haven't seen one, it's a rather long microphone. :biggrin:

I have used a similar setup to Sanjin's for when I need to work without a soundperson in a run and gun setup. I might have pictures somewhere around here.
 
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